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re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to bake cake for gender transition party

Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:48 am to
Posted by meaux5
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2010
11031 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:48 am to
You've been wrong with every post in this thread...so yeah.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:57 am to
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get the feeling if a flaming queen walked into this guy shop he’s not serving them ... I could be wrong



IIRC from the gay cake debacle, he had sold them many cakes prior to denying the wedding cake specifically.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47684 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:57 am to
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I understand what you saying


No baw, you don't

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but the situations you listed don’t apply here... this is a wedding cake(I think)... not some blatant random nonsense... I mean why would a baker even care who’s getting married???...


How about if you refrain from posting until you have read the article? You have tons of opinions, which is cool, but none of them have anything to do with this story/situation.
Posted by Kige Ramsey
1996,1998,2012.
Member since Jul 2007
44439 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:02 am to
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his refusal to bake a cake celebrating a gender transition.


Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:05 am to
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IIRC from the gay cake debacle, he had sold them many cakes prior to denying the wedding cake specifically.


My understanding of the baker's rationale was this:

He bakes cakes. If he bakes a cake and a homosexual wants to buy it for whatever reason, than be that as it may. The cake has already been baked. Whoever buys it is out of his control.

He simply does not wish to bake a cake for the expressed purpose of something he does not believe in.

And yes, there is a big difference between those two things.

If a KKK member walks "incognito", so to speak, into a black-owned restaurant and wishes to be served, he will get served. The owner obviously doesn't know any better that he just did business with a KKK member.

But if that same KKK member walks into a black-owned restaurant and says he wants them to cater his next KKK meeting, that's a whole different scenario, and I would completely support the business owner's decision not to do business with him.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 9:07 am
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8580 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:12 am to
None of these people seem to realize how our laws work. If the supreme court makes one judgement in a case like this, then every further case like this will base their conclusions on this case. So, say this goes through, can this baker make any decisions about cakes that he does, or does not want to make? What if a person comes in asking for a cake shaped like a cock and balls? Wouldn't that now be required to be baked> If he says no they might scream discrimination.

Similarly, in the case of Carlton and that ghoulish floss kid suing a video game for using "their" dance. Are we really going to start trademarking dances? What about any movies with the Twist in it? Can Chubby Checker sue Quentin Tarantino for Pulp Fiction? How about the hundreds of other movies and games with iconic dances that can be traced to one person?

People need to worry about themselves and stop blaming everyone else for their issues. All of these people who are suing one another and getting triggered over everything on social media have something wrong with them. They obviously aren't happy people. They need to take a hard look at themselves before passing judgement on others that they don't even know
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:16 am to
the way this stops is if a gofundme is started to raise a million dollars for him to defend himself

the clear goal is to bankrupt him, if we turn it around on these freaks and all that happens is the people get enriched by it then the idiots lose interest and move on to the next fake cause
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71821 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:18 am to
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I get the feeling if a flaming queen walked into this guy shop he’s not serving them ... I could be wrong



Is this random guess driving your opinion on the issue?

What are the odds this guy has either never had a flaming gay come into his Denver, CO store, or he has and has turned them away for it and nobody has reported it?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:34 am to
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He should have learned after the whole queer cake thing how to properly refuse service to someone.

"I'm sorry we're booked up, take your fricked up kid elsewhere"


Or

"Yeah, I'll do it. The price is $1 billion."
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 9:35 am
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10757 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:49 am to
Tell him to hit me up. I used an awesome baker for my transition party.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21131 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:54 am to
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It really is easy to deny service to someone. I do it all the time.


Tell that dude, no shoes, no shaft, no service.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 10:03 am to
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I’ve never donated to one of those go fund me things but I’d be inclined to for this dude. Let the guy bake his fricking cakes in peace.


I live about 3 miles from his bakery. I went by and gave him $30 about two months ago hearing about this shite. Very nice man who doesn’t deserve any of this. frick this evil delusional twat that is putting him through this.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23421 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:23 pm to
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frick this evil delusional dick that is putting him through this.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55343 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 12:41 pm to
i would have told the baker what the cake was for after taking delivery of it and paying for it...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46666 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 1:36 pm to
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i would have told the baker what the cake was for after taking delivery of it and paying for it...



And that would make you a piece of shite just like the lawyer.





Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 2:03 pm to
A business opens to make money, if some idiot doesn't want to make money because of some stupid personal belief they have then that's on them.

If I went somewhere to do business and they had a problem serving me because they didn't like something about me then I will gladly take my business elsewhere while using word of mouth to spread made up stories about how horrible of a job they do.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50923 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 2:10 pm to
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The tranny should just start up his own bakery right, libs?




Absolutely.

Sucks that you don't agree.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55343 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 2:12 pm to
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And that would make you a piece of shite just like the lawyer.


and the cake is made and paid for. nothing the baker can do about it now
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
27221 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 4:07 pm to
Just keep in mind, acceptance of their mental disabilities is no longer enough; we are now required to enthusiastically participate in their degeneracy.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 5:06 pm to
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This was the correct answer.

I’m wondering if the correct answer isn’t to bake them a cake the way you feel,comfortable baking it. Then when they pick the cake up they can refuse deliver. Baker just says I baked it to the best of my ability.
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