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re: Colorado baker back in court after refusing to bake cake for gender transition party

Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:57 am to
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:57 am to
He is famous in the area. The tranny is a lawyer. He knew what he was doing when he approached the specific baker. The set-up was in describing a cake that may be requested for revealing the gender of a baby.

The rug then was intentionally pulled out with the revelation of derangement. It was all on purpose and a big, fat set-up. They now know they cannot break his will so they will try to ruin him financially.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16792 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 7:58 am to
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My point is if you bake custom cakes for the public...do you really have a choose on what the customer wants customized... based on your faith


Yes, no one should be compelled to do speech they don't want to associate with, including large businesses. It's like Walmart refusing to make a Nazi flag cake. Custom work is different than standard work.

I don't think this is a case of compelled speech though, I actually think this is harassment of the cake maker. If the lawyer wanted the blue/pink cake, they could of easily just went into the store and asked for a pink cake with blue icing and got it without reference to any message. I got a feeling the conversation with the baker specifically mentioned why they wanted the cake that way to spring the trap on the baker. The lawyer chose to leave a message off the cake to try and make it appear they wanted a normal cake so it wasn't compelled speech.


I'm glad the baker is fighting it, good to set the precedent.


Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:00 am to
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They now know they cannot break his will so they will try to ruin him financially.


YOU WILL TOLERATE OR BE TOLERATED TO DEATH
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141068 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:01 am to
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can’t choose who you will and will not serve based on your faith...


Of course you can. You can't be this stupid.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71821 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:03 am to
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The set-up was in describing a cake that may be requested for revealing the gender of a baby.

The rug then was intentionally pulled out with the revelation of derangement.


I don't understand what the attorney thinks he accomplished here. Unless he first wanted to see if the baker would refuse any custom cake because he was a trans and called an audible once he realized the baker wasn't a bigot.

Accepting the original request only helps the baker.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44799 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:03 am to
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ETA: he should bake them a loaf of bread and tell them it identifies as a cake



This was the correct answer.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
77684 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:09 am to
The market should determine this. Everyone who believes as he believes, should do their best to give him all the business that they can. I would love for his business to thrive so much that he could always claim he was too busy to do whatever.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60078 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:09 am to
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Yeah you just cut off the part

That’s what people defending this guy want all of us to do
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:11 am to
This is fricking retarded. Just go to another baker. He doesn’t want to make the cake. This is not a civil rights issue. I swear the more people do this type of shite, I lose a lot of sympathy for any problems they actually have.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47684 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:18 am to
It is all designed to make the baker so poor he has to shut his bakery down. Legal fees on years long cases that go to SCOTUS are not affordable by individuals.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:19 am to
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Shame on the tranny


Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27993 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:21 am to
I have a feeling this guy makes really tasty cakes.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6268 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:22 am to
I understand what you saying ... but the situations you listed don’t apply here... this is a wedding cake(I think)... not some blatant random nonsense... I mean why would a baker even care who’s getting married???...
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
6203 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:22 am to
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The Colorado Civil Rights Commission said Phillips discriminated against Denver attorney Autumn Scardina because she's transgender. Phillips' shop refused to make a cake last year that was blue on the outside and pink on the inside after Scardina revealed she wanted it to celebrate her transition from male to female.

I'd be willing to bet these same people fully support Facebook and Twitter censoring right leaning voices. Ahhh the hypocrisy of the left.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6268 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:24 am to
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frick off tranny, we don’t serve your kind here.” It was “I don’t support this gender transition stuff so I don’t want to make a cake celebrating it.”


It’s basically the same thing... with that reasoning... he wouldn’t sell them anything, right???
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:28 am to
They are going to try to bankrupt him since they can't beat him legally
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:30 am to
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It’s basically the same thing... with that reasoning... he wouldn’t sell them anything, right???


No, he won't sell them a custom cake for that purpose. There is a difference.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6268 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:34 am to
I get the feeling if a flaming queen walked into this guy shop he’s not serving them ... I could be wrong
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:45 am to
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It’s basically the same thing... with that reasoning... he wouldn’t sell them anything, right???


I see you lack the capacity for rational thought so I’ll quit.

quote:

I get the feeling if a flaming queen walked into this guy shop he’s not serving them ... I could be wrong


Seems I was right.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 8:47 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 8:46 am to
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They now know they cannot break his will so they will try to ruin him financially.

That man has more stones than most.
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