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re: Boring Afternoon in Fredericksburg Texas

Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 7:50 pm to
No, I'm not claiming some great skill. It's not that difficult, really. My bil tries this with me every Thanksgiving. He's kind of a nouveau riche snob. I make fun of him routinely.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:21 pm to
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No, I'm not claiming some great skill. It's not that difficult, really. My bil tries this with me every Thanksgiving. He's kind of a nouveau riche snob. I make fun of him routinely.

People like to cherry pick a couple of studies in which the participants were actively lied to about the wines they were tasting. They then pretend as though “experts can’t taste wine” instead the reality that people don’t like to feel stupid, so they fold under social pressure and influence. People who pass the highest level som exams aren’t really good fricking guessers
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:29 pm to
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They then pretend as though “experts can’t taste wine”
I think he was referring to OP's friends. Sommeliers can taste the difference and name the grape and region or they fail as you said.
I submit that I can differentiate between $15 wine and well-regarded wines that are higher in costs. Can I describe the flavors, not really. It's how busy the wine feels and tastes.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:35 pm to
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I think he was referring to OP's friends. Sommeliers can taste the difference and name the grape and region or they fail as you said. I submit that I can differentiate between $15 wine and well-regarded wines that are higher in costs. Can I describe the flavors, not really. It's how busy the wine feels and tastes.

I was more referring to Lou, who you originally replied to before SS came in. SS didn’t really give enough information to read into
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:37 pm to
I see.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:42 pm to
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Those people are nothing but pretentious phonies. That crap all tastes very similar and people who bloviate like your friends are just putting on airs and looking like idiots. I fricking hate wine snobs.

People say the same shite about whiskey. It’s just not true. If you drink enough and know what you are drinking when getting acclimated, you can definitely later pull notes, and even tell the origin of certain whiskies. I’m not saying that I can do this with 100% certainty, but I could tell the difference between a Buffalo Trace and Brown Forman product.

I don’t drink enough wine to be able to do that, but I would assume if it could be done with whiskey it could be done with wine.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 8:55 pm to
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I don’t drink enough wine to be able to do that, but I would assume if it could be done with whiskey it could be done with wine.

It can, and I would argue it’s easier with wine because you have less neutral alcohol burn to get past. For most people, it’s just a vocabulary issue. If you can tell the difference in flavor between an apricot and a lychee, then there is no reason you can’t notice a wine with heavy notes of “stone fruit” versus “tropical fruit”. Doesn’t mean you’ll be able to pick out apricot versus underripe plum, but that’s a level of detail 99% of the population has absolutely no need for. But dryness, tannin level, most prominent fruit classes, etc are all easy things to identify with a bit of practice, and it helps a ton in figuring out which new wines someone will enjoy more than others.
Posted by TheRuins
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:00 pm to
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But do they play Mahjong?



when did women become sheep? How did this become a thing for married women in texas?
Posted by DR93Berlin
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:02 pm to
How hard would it be for Chicken to ban posters once their downvote % reached a certain level? We wouldn’t have to endure these inane responses or see their retarded posts
Posted by TheRuins
Member since Mar 2026
444 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:05 pm to
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Tell your wine snob friends this..there was a study where wine snobs did a blind taste test. They were asked to discuss the flavor, what fruits they could taste, how dry it was, the country of origin..etc. they couldn’t tell the difference between a $5 screw top bottle from the grocery store and a $5,000 bottle of wine. Those people are nothing but pretentious phonies. That crap all tastes very similar and people who bloviate like your friends are just putting on airs and looking like idiots. I fricking hate wine snobs.



this

Women are easy drunks and you could give them a $10 bottle and tell them it's caymas and they would be telling all their friends believing it.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:13 pm to
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My wife and I, and two other couples, were in the Texas Hill Country - the group decided (I was the only nay vote) to do a wine tasting tour. The other two couples are real wine snobs - my wife likes wine, but couldn't care less about the grapes, etc. The places we went served only wine (and water if you insisted!) - no beer, no Scotch, no tea, no coffee, no Dr Pepper. Listening to those pretentious oenologists (well, at least I learned a new word) could drive you to drastic actions. Thank you for allowing me to rant. Carry on. FWI: My wife buys her wine at Costco. The other four pay big bucks for wine shipped to them.


I had 3 wineries from Napa sending me wine after a trip but cut that out after a year or two. Then we went to Fredericksburg and now I’m getting wine shipped from 5 of them. I drink about a bottle every month or two

Need to cut the delivery down from quarterly to once a year because I’m out of room.

I’m more of a bourbon/beer guy but my wife likes wine but doesn’t really drink it unless I will have a glass with her.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:19 pm to
Not reading through all this but hopefully someone pointed out that almost none of the wine from Texas actually comes from Texas grapes. Fun place to hang out though…

Also Concan/Frio is badass drives like Southern Cal. True hill country Texas is wonderful.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 9:25 pm
Posted by TheRuins
Member since Mar 2026
444 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:24 pm to
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Not reading through all this but hopefully someone pointed out that none of the wine from Texas actually comes from Texas grapes.


Yes, many wineries in Fredericksburg, Texas, produce wine using 100% Texas-grown grapes,
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:26 pm to
German ingenuity
Posted by sigsauer
LA
Member since Jan 2009
517 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:51 pm to
Last time I was in the Hill.Country, I fished Canyon Lake and the Guadalupe in my kayak. We had a real slow morning on Canyon until I saw a crawfish at waters edge. Then it was on, I switched to a salty craw and that's all she wrote. I amazed my Texas buddies after landing several fish in a row, they paddled over wanting to know what I was throwing.

Also there was a moonshine place on the main drag in Fredericksburg that sold frozen lemonade moonshine. That made the crowds and snobby people much much more tolerable.
Well from what I remember, those thing really creep up on you.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15803 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:55 pm to
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Nephropidae


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Not reading through all this but hopefully someone pointed out that almost none of the wine from Texas actually comes from Texas grapes…


Just flat wrong.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:57 pm to
What did you think about the bunghole?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 9:57 pm to
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Yes, many wineries in Fredericksburg, Texas, produce wine using 100% Texas-grown grapes,

Some do, but even those generally aren’t growing their own grapes. “Texas wine country” has shite soil and climate for grape growing. The overwhelming majority of Texas grown grapes are grown around Lubbock.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
2269 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:09 pm to
OP left out the pineapple in the story.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 10:29 pm to
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But dryness, tannin level, most prominent fruit classes, etc are all easy things to identify with a bit of practice, and it helps a ton in figuring out which new wines someone will enjoy more than others.


To each their own. Enjoy your life the way you want! Of course…

When I read this and think of of my life enjoyment priorities, deciphering tannin levels of wine falls between priorities:

345. Understanding Barnacle taxonomy

347. Betsy Ross sewing hacks

Kidding! Tannin away.
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