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re: Body Cam footage of Atlanta police shooting released.

Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:00 am to
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
36102 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:00 am to
Wrong.

Shooting someone in the back can be just justified in certain situations.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67034 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:29 am to
quote:

He was shot in the back while fleeing. That's not justification under any definition of the law.

If I attack you, fight you, take a weapon from you, and begin to move away from you while shooting the weapon I just took from you, you don’t feel like you need to defend yourself at any point?
Let us know when we can all meet you at sonic
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30594 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 5:47 am to
Here's a Public Service Announcement:

DO WHAT THE COPS ASK AND YOU WILL LIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40276 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:09 am to
Regarding the 911 call: the dispatcher asked if the passed out person was black. Is that standard for them to ask? Also I’ve heard it said that an ambulance should have been sent not the police. But the dispatcher asked the caller did she need ambulance, fire or police and the valet replied police. Why didn’t 911 dispatch send both???

???
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76802 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:47 am to
chick that started the fire

Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:52 am to
The Mayor called her out yesterday
Said she started the fire (I have not watched video but read here it was already on fire)
Said she cost over 40 people their jobs & also that this part of town is part of a food desert & Wendys was where the community was able to get salads
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76802 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:52 am to
she seems pleased with herself
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35333 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:53 am to
quote:

He fought, stole the taser, turned around and appeared to fire (or attempt to fire it) at police.



Legitimate question here for those in the know. Why did the Police respond with lethal force when facing a threat with a less than lethal weapon?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69816 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:54 am to
quote:

He was shot in the back while fleeing. That's not justification under any definition of the law.


*fleeing while firing (or attempting to fire) a taser back at police.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87755 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:55 am to
To be clear, everyone is showing this white girl as the fire starter. I hope she's prosecuted, but there are about 50 other people who should be prosecuted (likely white and black).

New helicopters filmed dozens of people shooting fireworks into the Wendys, running up with gas cans trying to set it on fire, etc. So the narrative of "look a white instigator did this" is true, but it's also laughable because about 30 black kids were trying to do it too.

In some ways, if this white girl gets thrown to the wolves for trying to be an "ally" - I'll love it. Serves her right. But as usual in 2020, the story is "oh it was a peaceful protest but for..." which ignores that the Wendys had already had all glass broken 2 hours before, had 3-4 other fires set nearby, etc.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112659 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:58 am to
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Legitimate question here for those in the know. Why did the Police respond with lethal force when facing a threat with a less than lethal weapon?
Legitimate question, are you braindead

If taser hits cop, and now cop is lying on ground stunned, do you see how that is potentially a very very grave situation when you have an intoxicated man fighting the cops?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30777 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Legitimate question here for those in the know. Why did the Police respond with lethal force when facing a threat with a less than lethal weapon?




WHat happens when this criminal shoots the taser and hits the officer? Officer goes down. Officer has a gun that he wasn't using since you don't think he should be using it, but he has it on him. Now officer is down, and criminal is in control to take gun and shoot officer.

Is that so difficult to comprehend?
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24526 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Why did the Police respond with lethal force when facing a threat with a less than lethal weapon?

Ok, imagine the cop is hit by the taser and incapacitated. Drunk guy goes and gets his firearm...you see where that could go?
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2623 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:59 am to
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This post was edited on 9/4/20 at 2:01 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69816 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Legitimate question here for those in the know. Why did the Police respond with lethal force when facing a threat with a less than lethal weapon?


Tasers can be lethal, it was a weapon stolen from them, they may have just reacted to him pointing what looked like a gun back at them. Could be any of those or something else. I’m sure the reasoning will come out.
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1730 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Why didn’t 911 dispatch send both???

Why did he drive drunk? Why didn’t he get an Uber? Why did he resist? Why did he punch a cop? Why did he take a cops taser? Why did he run? Why did he fire a taser at a cop? There are all kinds of what ifs.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30777 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Also I’ve heard it said that an ambulance should have been sent not the police. But the dispatcher asked the caller did she need ambulance, fire or police and the valet replied police. Why didn’t 911 dispatch send both???



Police always show up first to make sure everythign is safe. EMT and fireman aren't policeman, even though they can get their first. The police are there to make sure its safe for the emergency responders.

And why would an ambulance show up to assess why someone in their running car parked in the drivethru at Wendy's be the first to respond? That's not how things work.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17227 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Legitimate question here for those in the know. Why did the Police respond with lethal force when facing a threat with a less than lethal weapon?


Because the justification for using lethal force is whether a reasonable officer would perceive an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury. The law does not require officers to accept being seriously injured under these circumstances when someone is using any weapon in a manner that threatens their safety.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14360 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:08 am to
quote:

also that this part of town is part of a food desert


The climate just got a lot hotter and drier.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14360 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Ok, imagine the cop is hit by the taser and incapacitated. Drunk guy goes and gets his firearm...you see where that could go?




Hard to understand why people don't immediately see this. A cop shouldn't be expected to allow himself to be tased by a violent perp who has just stolen his taser.
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