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If God is the ultimate source and highest authority for knowledge, then there would be nothing greater to appeal to, and therefore appealing to Him would be necessarily circular. Not all circular reasoning is fallacious, but only viciously circular reasoning. When you appeal to ultimates, you can't help but be circular. Try this: defend the existence of the laws of logic without using the laws of logic.

The laws of logic are preconditions for argument. You can’t meaningfully debate anything without already relying on logic.

But a religious text is a specific historical claim that could be mistaken, interpreted differently, or challenged by competing revelations.

Using logic to reason about logic is different from saying “this specific book is divinely true because the book says it’s divinely true.”

It’s a logical fallacy to use a claim as its own evidence.

I’m still struggling to master a good pizza crust.
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That one zip tie appears to be unnecessary, except for a little showmanship.
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From my perspective, I believe God is the source of all knowledge and wisdom, and that we cannot understand reality apart from Him. This is often times referred to as the transcendental argument for the existence of God: the proof of God's existence is that if He didn't exist, you couldn't prove anything.

That sounds like textbook circular reasoning.

Another example is:
Hypothetical you: “God wrote the bible”
Hypothetical me: “How do you know”
Hypothetical you: “Because it says so in the bible”
I’m late to this conversation. But based on your last few posts, every attempt at reasoning through this topic of discussion is premised on ancient text as an exclusive source of reasoning.

It may be helpful in making good moral decisions, but should it really be the basis for understanding things not documented in ancient writings by ancient humans from a bygone era that claimed to be inspired by unseen forces?
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He brandished a gun. He didn't point a gun at anyone. But I guess that doesn't matter.

When someone threatens the life of another and quickly shows everyone present his willingness to reduce his decision to shoot time to a half second by drawing a weapon, does as a reasonable person equipped to stop the threat wait for that half second to elapse with the hope of being quicker on the trigger pull and accuracy?

If someone intentionally presents themselves as a lethal threat and you’re equipped to stop it before innocent people get hurt, you stop it.
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But ire guy at the counter shot him after the threat had passed.

The guy who verbally threatened to take a life and then exhibited a tool to threaten people with was still armed as he entered the outdoor environment with more potential targets.
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I thought it was common knowledge King enjoyed white women and booze.

Can you blame him?
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With the large number of men being removed, in many cases, women have been left to provide for their families on their own. In interviews with The Post, three women and one man described how an ICE arrest has transformed their families. All spoke of disastrous emotional and financial repercussions.

Many? What percentage of deported men actually left behind wives?

They don’t have that number so they found one to build a story. Gullible readers will think it’s the norm.
The only time it doesn’t work for me is when I settle for shopping where the poors shop.

They love to frick up shite that doesn’t belong to them.
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But nobody asks the question, if it's so critical that a BLACK must represent the interests of BLACK people, why aren't the Hispanics screaming the same and demanding set aside districts?

And don’t forget about the Asians.

They never whined about not having people that looked like them as a prerequisite to succeed.
Thanks.

Found my new beach bathing suit.
The thong just no longer works for guys over 50. But this is money.
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The 4cubbies of NYC bears partial responsibility in the death of 76 year old in the subway

I’ve seen people do that in jury duty also.

They avoid jury duty because of fear of perpetrator race due to racial guilt, or the honest ones just don’t want violent criminals seeing who put them in jail.
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Cliff notes: women will never date down

Just wait until those women see a wedding ring on your finger. Oddly enough, I’ve drawn more attention with a ring (from women and men) than
I ever did without a ring. It’s flattering, but odd.

Also, if more women are married by age 30 than men, then who are these women 30 and under men marrying? Older men.

So dudes in your 20s…focus on your job and maximize your wealth. By the time you pass 30, the younger broads will find you more attractive than they ever did in their 20s.

It’s also interesting that women have always married at a higher rate before age 30 than men during the same era, and the gap has always been around 10%.

Conclusion: women have always sought out older men at the same rate and no other societal change has changed it.
Awesome post. I upvoted.

My only hangup was trying to understand the percentages. But that’s on me. I think I understand the intended math of percentages, but I’m not there yet. I’m sure I’ll get there without needing you to explain further….maybe.
My first thought is that removing dead people was not the only provision of the bill.

This is textbook politics. Find one portion that should have been fine to address and totally ignore the more contentious provisions so that you can write a good “the other side is corrupt” article.

But I haven’t read the bill. And apparently neither has the original journalist or the OP.

I’ll give it a read. But it might be more efficient to see if anyone fact checked it in the comments.

Edit #1: apparently opposition votes felt that allowing dead people to vote is the mechanism for detecting voter fraud. The argument is they want to detect fraud rather than prevent it. That raises the question as to whether or not they have a history of allowing transparent auditing to detect fraud, or do they block attempts to detect it. I’ll keep reading.
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This I know is not true. There are plenty of men who have very low mechanical aptitude and plenty of women who do and ones you wouldn't suspect.

What you claimed does not disprove the fact. Exceptions (whether rare or “plenty”) do not disprove. Science does not work that way.

Example: not every chain smoker gets lung cancer. That doesn’t mean chain smoking is not the primary cause of lung cancer.
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How come I don’t ever see any women garbagewomen or construction workers

It’s obviously because the sanitation profession discriminates against women AND is one of those unique professions that would rather pay men higher wages to do the same job that women would do for less.
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There is still a tremendous amount of discretion involved in making these determinations.

Are you in favor of a zero discretion system? The only way to do that is to simply lock up everyone during the “innocence” phase. Or release everyone until conviction.

Discretion with evidence but without cash can still be an improvement.
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Not do away with cash bail, but something has to change. Judges have too much discretion.

Yes to doing away with cash bail. It has conditioned gullible citizens to believe money or lack thereof should be used for the purpose of incarceration. There is no evidence that whether or not someone can post cash bail has anything to do with whether or not someone shows up for court or prevents someone from committing additional crime.

The system needs to change to simply allow orders of detention without the need to come up with a dollar amount that would allow someone to be released.

The decision should simply come down to whether or not an arrestee should or should not be released on bond. The basis for that decision should be the best evidence available. No need to study or reinvent it. There’s a large body of research out there. We just need to use it.