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re: Being/becoming a public school teacher in America is the worst career possible

Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7592 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:10 pm to
About to finish year 13. Over 80k. It’s not a lot but certainly not the life of poverty that some make it sound. Benefits are meh but I don’t pay into social security. Can retire at 55 with a pension for life that is 70% of my best salary, age 60 with 80% or 65 at 92%.

It’s a mentally demanding job, but only because you have to be at the top of your game all day. Parents and kids are fine as long as you have reasonable communication skills and don’t “feel attacked”. I feel purpose everyday and believe I have an opportunity to impact.

It’s certainly not for everyone but it’s far from the worst career in America
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10895 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:12 pm to
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Teachers complain about money but they are financial morons. Teachers have the best (and most absurd) pension plans in all of America. So you make a little less (very little when you consider they actual hours spent working) but get a massive retirement in the back end.


Meh. They have a pension. It's not absurd. Source, my wife is looking at retirement, after 25 years.
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2239 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:06 pm to
Agreed. But the world needs ditch diggers too.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43772 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:08 pm to
It all depends on where you work and who you work with.
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2239 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:11 pm to
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About to finish year 13. Over 80k


Where?
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:13 pm to
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-no lunch hour


Right. No free period either, I bet. Sounds like slavery.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:17 pm to
There's definitely worse jobs out there but there's a lot less incentives to being a teacher than there used be and I'm not talking about pay. With zoomers, you have to deal with a lot of crap now. No work ethic, you're constantly disrespected, not to mention with lower income students there's a strong chance of being attacked or cursed at.
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7662 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:18 pm to
You've clearly never worked in the medical field.
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
2076 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:31 pm to
The worst part (from my experience) is dealing with the over-educated administrators. The pay, schedule, and workload are pretty commensurate for what we do.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20112 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:36 pm to
You forgot state benefits, 3 months off plus an arse of holidays and retire when you’re 55.

I have two friends that are in the school system and they have it made.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 11:38 pm
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18290 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 2:27 am to
I'm a high school science teacher in Louisiana. I love it. I'm fortunate that my financial situation was favorable before I became a teacher so the salary isn't a big issue for me.

I'm also fortunate to work for a great administration.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16100 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 3:01 am to
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Only like 5% low income

Have to Say that definitely helps out the situation.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12459 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 5:30 am to
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very little when you consider they actual hours spent working
bullshite
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34552 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 5:38 am to
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-$20-$45k a year


Starting elementary school teacher make about $50K-$60/year here.

Oh and summers off....
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12692 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:06 am to
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Enough said.
- shitty pay
-shitty benefits
-shitty parents who play on their phones all day
-dealing with trash parents
-state standards
- shitty pay


You don’t seem to understand the pay or benefits despite several folks pointing out the issue in your argument. Are you trying to prove the education system failed you?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80916 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:07 am to
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Wife


Rules....
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39169 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:09 am to
45k is the low end of pay (in my district anyway) these days

The kids suck now I’ll give you that one.

There’s no more germs than before

My insurance is pretty dope actually. No premium (with wellness points) and covers just about everything I need it for.

“No lunch hour” the frick?

I mean don’t get me wrong there’s issues now and getting out is definitely on the table for me but none of them are what you listed.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12459 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:11 am to
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Oh and summers off....

Every teacher I know teaches summer school and busts their arse lesson planning for the next year.
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1103 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:12 am to
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Covid hasn’t been a thing for a year where I am. The lunch hour thing sucks but I’m on the clock 7:45-3:15. That’s 7.5 hours


If you are punching in at 745 and out at 315 you probably aren’t a very good teacher.
I’m not arguing that teachers have it the worst and deserve to whine as much as some do. But the hours for a good teacher are not just the school hours. Duty, extra curricular, clubs, lesson planning, grading, etc. are all part of the job for a good teacher that occur outside of normal school hours.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3836 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 6:12 am to
Are you trained to groom kids into freaks at a young age in college or once you’re employed by the government? Serious question. Are all of your co workers groomers ? Public school teachers are NOT the same as they were 40 years ago.
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