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re: Being/becoming a public school teacher in America is the worst career possible
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:18 am to Rhino5
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:18 am to Rhino5
Which is fair because from what I can see, they're the worst people in America, who believe all the union propaganda that they're better human beings and care more for my kids than I do. They really deserve to be miserable the way they're subverting our country.
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Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:19 am to Gravitiger
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Yes it does.
I can make shite up too. Communists believe other people's money is always the answer.
Compare Louisiana to Utah schools. Spending and outcome.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:20 am to squid_hunt
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Which is fair because from what I can see, they're the worst people in America,
I got my degree in education. I quit teaching because I fricking couldn't stand teachers.
The kids were great, the other teachers really are very average of intelligence and think they are changing the world. They aren't. They're glorified day care workers.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:21 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:20 am to Rhino5
Widen the perspective a bit…
A great teacher can yield so many positive outcomes for individuals, families and communities. Seems to have been reduced to a job in this thread, but outside of parenting, there are few roles in life with greater leverage on society.
Takes a whole system….starting with parents, education system, schools, leadership, etc.
If I were king, the teaching system in society is revered, encourages teaching, innovation, modifies one-sized fits all mass model to be fit for individual needs (students and teachers alike), non teachers with education skills are encouraged to teach part of year (tech prof to firemen and all between…).
A great teacher can yield so many positive outcomes for individuals, families and communities. Seems to have been reduced to a job in this thread, but outside of parenting, there are few roles in life with greater leverage on society.
Takes a whole system….starting with parents, education system, schools, leadership, etc.
If I were king, the teaching system in society is revered, encourages teaching, innovation, modifies one-sized fits all mass model to be fit for individual needs (students and teachers alike), non teachers with education skills are encouraged to teach part of year (tech prof to firemen and all between…).
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Clearly. You just did.
I can make shite up too. Communists believe other people's money is always the answer.
Compare Louisiana to Utah schools. Spending and outcome.
Look at individual districts. At individual schools. Utah has the highest rate of private school enrollment of any state. That is some serious spending.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:23 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:22 am to Gravitiger
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At individual schools.
Your quality of school correlates to the quality of student, which is primarily decided by parental action and DNA.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:23 am to Turf Taint
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Takes a whole system
Nah, that kind of thinking got us where we are.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Parental action is directly correlated with parental income (and thus spending on education)
Your quality of school correlates to the quality of student, which is primarily decided by parental action and DNA.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:24 am to Hot Carl
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What do you teach?
English (I & III), U.S. History and World History.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:25 am to Gravitiger
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Parental action is directly correlated with parental income
Utah spends half of what Louisiana does on education per student.
Good students come from good parents, not rich parents.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Again, because many of the good students in Utah go to private schools that their parents pay thousands of dollars for.
Utah spends half of what Louisiana does on education per student.
quote:False. Highly performing students are significantly more likely to come from educated, affluent parents. It's not even a question.
Good students come from good parents, not rich parents.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:30 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:28 am to Gravitiger
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Good students come from good parents, not rich parents.
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False
Explain Utah. Compare to California or Louisiana school results and spending.
Rich kids usually have better parents. What they spend on school is irrelevant.
Thanks.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:30 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:28 am to Rhino5
Just don't chant Sohcahtoa, and you can make $55k to work 9 months, collect pension and have good insurance.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
I just did. You're talking about a tiny state population with only one urban center that has the highest percentage of private school education in the country.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:31 am to Gravitiger
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I just did
Utah spends half of what Louisiana spends with far better results.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Repeating yourself over and over again doesn't make your point any more valid. You have yet to substantively respond
Utah spends half of what Louisiana spends with far better results.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
Inputs —> Process —> Outputs
Ignore perhaps but cannot escape a system, particularly one that is open such as education. It’s not “thinking”. It’s perspective.
Best outcomes follow a system whose parts work well, stand alone and together.
Ignore perhaps but cannot escape a system, particularly one that is open such as education. It’s not “thinking”. It’s perspective.
Best outcomes follow a system whose parts work well, stand alone and together.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:33 am to Turf Taint
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Best outcomes follow a system whose parts work well
Systems always have tradeoffs and gaps.
Kids fall through the cracks in our educational system because we are trying to do far too much.
Education needs to be simplified and made less expensive. Mass schooling is archaic and harmful.
This post was edited on 4/22/22 at 7:34 am
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:lol no
What they spend on school is irrelevant.
Thanks.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:48 am to Rhino5
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Being/becoming a public school teacher in America is the worst career possible
Did you forget about being a white policeman in any liberal city?
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