re: At what point did the price of trucks go from expensive to batshite insane?

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You would not find a 2016 F-150, which is fully loaded, for less than 45K in the fall of 2015.

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You should have waited a couple of months then if you bought in the fall. Did you purchase outright or finance it?

Haven't read the whole thread, but here is my comment on this. Sticker is now meaningless. So much goes into what you eventually pay. I just bought a new truck. Here are round numbers. Sticker was $46. Advertised price was $39. I paid $32. Why? My guess is a combination of the lot having a few 2015s left and me being both out of town and talking up the deals in Houston. I started this process thinking there would be no way i could actually buy a new truck. I am glad I actually put in the effort to do so.

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Ever wonder what the actual cost to make these trucks are? Much less any other vehicle. The markup has to be insane.

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I'm thought a lot about this. Here is my guess based upon the truck I bought.

Sticker $53,761
Paid $37,500

Dealer Cost $33-35K
Manufacturer Overhead $3-5K
Cost to manufacture 30K

My guess is a F150 4x4 XLT 302A and a few other options probably cost Ford $30-33K to manufacture.

It's a bit of a guess though. Mark up on trucks is huge. Very large profits on trucks even after rebates and other incentives.

the used truck market is crazy high too

From what I can tell, they price them off the sticker price and not the selling price, so the depreciation is not as much as it seems and the deal you are getting as a used buyer is not as good either. There are deals to be had but you've got to be lucky or vigilant. You're pretty much better off buying new if you can negotiate a good deal.

A Chevy Tahoe has basically become a luxury vehicle. I've always driven one but don't think I can justify getting a new one when the time comes for me to start shopping.

Times have changed since this commercial.... Like A Rock

Most of the young generation only look at how much the monthly note is. They don't pay attention to the total cost

Guy I know/work with's silverado's(2016) note is $750/month. When he told me that, I just laughed. I mean, for that much, you can drive anything. Just about anything.

I just know that for what he's spending every month on a truck, he's not hauling any dirt or tossing tools in the bed.

Expand your search area to Texas, and you'll find hundreds (maybe a thousand) that fit your criteria. I'm never gonna spend more than 5 minutes talking to dealerships in Louisiana again. It's pointless.

Current truck was bought for $13.5k in Houston with zero haggling and a $75 flight. They picked me up from the airport, and I was driving off of the lot 45 minutes after I got there. An identical truck with 300 more miles was in BR for $21k, and I talked them down to $19k.

Previous truck was bought for $27.5k in San Antonio. Two identical ones in Louisiana that had within 500 miles of mine were $37.5 and $39k.

You've got to be an absolute moron to shop for used trucks in Louisiana

Supply and demand