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re: MSNBC with the AR-15 facts - UpToPar
You all missed another gem in the video. He says an AR-15 with high capacity magazines can shoot upwards of 100 rounds in a minute but a handgun can only shoot around 15-20 rounds in a minute. A full size 9mm handgun has a 15+1 round magazine. What an idiot....
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]Basically all I'm saying is that owning an AR is not protected by the constitution and [b]the courts have agreed.[/b] [/quote] Lower courts have. We have yet to hear from SCOTUS on the issue. ...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]You are correct.[/quote] :lol: Your OP indicates you thought otherwise. [quote]The highest court of the land [b][u]agreed[/u][/b] that owning an AR or the more commonly referred to by the left "assault rifle" is not constitutionally protected.[/quote] Now you change your position aft...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]So should I move on to the next state that bans "assault weapons"?[/quote] Go for it. What point are you trying to prove with that? Nobody in this thread disagrees that some lower courts have upheld assault weapons bans....
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
That doesn't mean what you think it means. Unless your only point in this thread was that the 4th circuit has upheld the ban. And I should clarify, Heller isn't the reason you can't buy an "assault weapon" in Maryland. ETA2: Your thread is so embarrassing the admins have anchored it. :lol:...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]So again, is the SCOTUS just ignoring that several states are openly denying the constitutional rights of their citizens? If they aren't then assault weapons bans are unconstitutional and I am now allowed to buy them in all 50 states, correct? Is that what you're saying.[/quote] They do it...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
Here’s the quote that the 4th circuit grossly misapplied and took completely out of contexts. [quote]It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service—M-16 rifles and the like—may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
How many times you going to move the goalposts in this thread? First, it was “SCOTUS has upheld assault weapons bans.” When people explained that that’s not how cert denials work, you shifted to “no federal court has ever held an assault weapons ban to be unconstitutional.” When proved wrong, you...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
The US District Court for the Northern Mariana Islands. It’s in the caption....
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]In plain English without any possibility to refute, every time the issue about whether an "assault rifle" ban is brought to the federal courts, it is unphelp that the ban is not in any way shape or form an infringement on your 2A rights.[/quote] For the third time, you’re wrong. I’ve linke...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]Can you please site the SCOTUS case where the SCOTUS ruled on the constitutionality of assault weapons bans? [/quote] Try not to laugh, but he thinks a denial of cert means that SCOTUS agrees with the lower court’s decision....
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]It also doesn't help that no federal court in history has deemed an assault weapons ban as unconstitutional.[/quote] You’re wrong: [link=(http://www.nmid.uscourts.gov/documents/decisions/1-14-cv-00026-109.pdf)]Murphy v. Guerrero[/link]...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]Well they did say that AR bans are unconstitutional. I'm just pointing out that not one single time in US history has a federal court agreed with them. [/quote] [link=(http://www.nmid.uscourts.gov/documents/decisions/1-14-cv-00026-109.pdf)]”Because the assault weapons ban does not support th...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]Sounds like the SCOTUS feels just fine with the ruling. [/quote] Better to be thought an idiot than the open your mouth and remove all doubt. It’s glaringly obvious from this thread you have little to no knowledge on the workings of SCOTUS. It’s not even worth explaining to you. You’d d...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
Oh shit! You didn’t honestly think that the denial of cert = affirmation of the lower court, did you? :rotflmao:...
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re: Why can't the NRA get to what the issue is really about - UpToPar
[quote]The highest court of the land agreed that owning an AR or the more commonly referred to by the left "assault rifle" is not constitutionally protected. [/quote] Link? Cite? I’m going to need something here. What case are you talking about?...
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re: Backlash continues to grow: Enterprise, Alamo, and National car dump the NRA - UpToPar
[quote]A bunch of rifles that I inherited from my dad.[/quote] How much you want for them?...
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re: New Details From BSO on Stoneman-Douglas Resource Officer [CRINGE] - UpToPar
[quote]So if an actual police officer was too afraid to make a move, we should obviously arm menopausal women to protect the children. [/quote] There's a difference in actively engaging a shooter and protecting your students once the shooter is trying or does enter a classroom. ...
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re: No Federal Appeals Court Has Held Assault-type Weapons are 2A Protected. - UpToPar
[quote]I was quoting from the 4th Circuit.[/quote] From which page of the 4th Circuit's opinion? Your quote said "The Heller Court said, ..." So either you are quoting Heller out of context or the 4th Circuit quoted Heller out of context. Either way, you're being deceptive....
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