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re: Ascension Parish plans to clear residents from 17,000-acre area for industrial development

Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:57 pm to
The use of eminent domain solely or mostly to benefit private companies is on some shaky legal foundational grounds, but money talks and bullshite walks in everything now
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8160 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:03 pm to
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It leaves plants cleaner than before.


Ehh. Outfall leaves with a higher TDS, and also has higher N and P compounds that end up in the Gulf.
Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:26 pm to
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Would take a shitload over market to have me deal with relocation headaches and leaving my home.
That's where I'm at. My family has lived and farmed on our property for 150ish years. Guess there's a price for everything, but it seems like even double the market value wouldn't come close to being enough for us to uproot everything and leave.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8948 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:31 pm to
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They will pay far over market value for this property and the owners will be able to buy 3 acres of un-fricked land elsewhere for what they'll get for 1 acre out of this deal.
As someone whose family has had land seized as part of eminent domain, the government never pays you for what the land is really worth.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87059 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:59 pm to
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looking for a firm that will, through a "transparent, community-centered process,”



Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4544 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Most states responded by clamping down, via state amendments, on what defines "public use". Louisiana did so through passing 2006's Amendment 5, which banned eminent domain for private economic development, tightened blight definitions, and ensured full compensation, along with Act 859, which added statutory protections like repurchase rights.



I kinda remember this. The use of ED for private use is bullshite and ripe for corruption.

I understand that the town/county/state won't see the potential economic benefit that could be realized with a certain piece of land. But that is the price you pay for having strong property rights and living in the United States of America. Completely worth it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23380 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:37 pm to
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They always account for future expansion and required buffer zone in these purchases when they can. They want to get all they can while the getting is good.


I would disagree they do that in Eminent domain cases. If you are suggesting the county/ parish/state/ etc do when helping to purchase land for large projects, I won’t disagree. But using eminent domain to take away someone’s land for future potential, would be complete BS.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4617 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:39 pm to
That’s BS. Stealing someone’s land, the should go to hell.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19489 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:40 pm to
All those homeowners are gonna get sweet deal on their houses.

I wouldn’t even be a little upset if a company like that wanted to pay me more than what my house was worth.

I would be say cool, where do i sign.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82053 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:41 pm to
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But I wouldn’t be happy about the industry and pollution.
Lord
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100467 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:41 pm to
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wish somebody would decide they wanted to plop some industrial shite on top of where my house is. This will be the biggest windfall most of those people could ever dream of getting and they will still bitch up an unbelievable shitstorm of commotion over it.


I know a catfish farmer in Alabama where they were going to build a 4 lane highway and were offering top dollar to anyone who lived in the way. They went around his house and farm and built it in front of his property and he was mad as hell he wanted them to go through his farm so he could get paid and shut that headache down and retire
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100467 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 8:43 pm to
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That area is 99% farmland, and .5% shanties and .5% decent houses. Those people will improve their lot in life, as will the parish and area with billions of investment in jobs.


With grain prices so low it will likely be a blessing to the farmers

They’ll get 10-12k per acre minimum I bet
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13869 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:09 pm to
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With grain prices so low it will likely be a blessing to the farmers


100% sugar cane there, no grain. From the list on the website its almost all 150 acres and larger owners, many as LLCs
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
14636 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:16 pm to
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100% sugar cane there, no grain.


Very good chance they rotate soy beans.
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
3520 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:59 pm to
…Aren’t there 2-3 huge houses along the river there owned by members of one family?

Or used to?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40217 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:28 pm to
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Most of that land out there isn't worth shite. So 15% - 40% over market value isn't much.


This.

FMV is not the same thing as replacement value.

They might get paid 2x market value and still can’t afford to buy a house somewhere else
Posted by jasonbr1975
Member since Sep 2024
1172 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:10 pm to
If you look on map. Look up Modeste
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13869 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:41 pm to
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Very good chance they rotate soy beans.


I've never seen a sugar cane field rotate with anything other than more cane.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30029 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 12:01 am to
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For a long time, I said Wickard was the most obscene currently controlling SCOTUS decision, then Kelo came along.


The day Josh became a strict constructionist fired up about the difference between "public use" and "public purpose.".

I think the logic in Wikard is correct, just taken to the Nth degree. It does show how wartime can give dangerous court rulings and how Korematsu came out of the same court. A case that has hung around long enough without being directly overturned that it had to be rebuked by Roberts in Trump v Hawaii just a handful of years ago.


For me the worst is still without a doubt Citizens United. The tsunamis and ripples from that will play out for decades. I think it is the controlling caselaw that would give the framers the most heartburn.

Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17626 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:46 am to
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They will pay far over market value for this property and the owners will be able to buy 3 acres of un-fricked land elsewhere for what they'll get for 1 acre out of this deal.As someone whose family has had land seized as part of eminent domain, the government never pays you for what the land is really worth.



I’m amazed my fellow conservatives are suddenly “OK” with politicians taking land from owners. Especially bc we know the politicians are gonna be paid before any landowner gets their check.

Years ago, it was called Overreach and corrupt.
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