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re: Are there any confirmed negative impacts of data centers?
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:17 am to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:17 am to Funky Tide 8
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Powering the mass surveillance of U.S. citizens seems like a pretty big negative affect.
The cell phone in your pocket has been doing that since 2010
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:21 am to theliontamer
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Are they all using aquifer water?
Most that I have seen are either using well water or using water from the municipality. I’m sure some have water plants built on-site but I haven’t seen one.
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Are they not treating it and returning it to the environment?
Mostly they do not. I know that during many construction phases they are shipping out water off via trucks for disposal.
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Can they not use river water?
Depends on the use but they should be able too. Water treatment and purification on an industrial scale for heat exchange has been around for over 100 years.
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Or are you just assuming the worst case scenario is the widespread norm.
It’s not assuming. It is.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:51 am to mthorn2
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AI hardware,NVIDIA GPUs,, becomes obsolete in 2 years, with major technology refreshes often occurring every three years-ish. Much like replacing a laptop every few years, hyperscale operators continually upgrade their servers to remain competitive. When local tax structures capture those equipment replacement, communities benefit from recurring tax revenue rather than relying solely on the initial investment, creating a long-term economic tax gain
Except in Louisiana where we passed a 20 year sales tax exemption on "data center equipment" which basically includes everything except for office supplies.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:54 am to KosmoCramer
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It's a Chinese psy op, pretty clear at this point. And the liberals latched on because they don't want more nuclear power plants built that could safely power them all.
Or the Chinese govt just bribed them to produce propaganda against it like they did with our elections.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:02 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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We celebrate a new paper mill, auto plant, etc., but we are hating data centers. Don't really understand it.
I was talking to someone opposed to them the other day. My question to him was what other large industry would you be happy with coming to your community? DC don’t have heavy trucks tearing up parish roads like paper mills. They don’t have a big pollution footprint. LA has more freshwater than 48 other states. We have the lowest utility rates on average in the US. LA is going to be a major player in the large DC construction business for years to come. That’s not a bad thing.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:11 am to JasonDBlaha
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it displaces a lot of people from homes due to companies buying up land
Do data centers have eminent domain? No.
So any displacement of families via land acquisition is voluntary. I remember this type of talking point during the initial Pennsylvania frac boom. People at public meetings were all like, Williams came in and put 15 wells on the Jones property and drove them out....
No what really happened is the Jones leased their property for 20 times what its really worth plus royalties, making 250,000 a month, and went and bought them a place on the water in St. Pete.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:12 am to theliontamer
Do you want to live beside one?
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:13 am to PCRammer
Yes some data centers have eminent domain.
You are incorrect.
You are incorrect.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:26 am to lsufan1971
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DC don’t have heavy trucks tearing up parish roads like paper mills.
I'd take the paper mill since the sheer amount of good paying jobs will completely change the economy of the area.
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LA is going to be a major player in the large DC construction business for years to come. That’s not a bad thing.
Good or bad depends on how much of the $ actually circulates through the local community. Period.
That DCs are so ultra secretive with any details just makes it seem like they're trying to fleece local taxpayers to assure record payouts for investors in NYC with all the issues and future expenses falling to local residents.
Traditional factories like paper mills certainly have a strong environmental impact but are offset simply by the high percentage of money that stays in the local economy.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 11:31 am
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:29 am to theliontamer
Everyone wants to use AI, but no one wants AI data centers.
#NIMBY
#NIMBY
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:44 am to theliontamer
Can’t confirm data on some of what you brought up, but I can confirm this:
Tommy Tuberville is a fricking idiot and he supports this. He’s clearly being funded to push for them.
Tommy Tuberville is a fricking idiot and he supports this. He’s clearly being funded to push for them.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:45 am to theliontamer
increased cost of electricity and water for everyone else around it.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:49 am to notsince98
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If the data center is using evaporative cooling and pulling from an aquifer or pulling from a volume challenged surface water source there is absolutely an environmental impact.
ok, there is an impact
it is not significant compared with other processes that we have absolutely zero problem with and rely on
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:52 am to theliontamer
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Are they not treating it and returning it to the environment?
They are not. It is going to the local wastewater treatment plant like every other occupied building. It can easily overwhelm undersized treatment facilities.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:09 pm to Texas Tea 123
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ok, there is an impact
it is not significant compared with other processes that we have absolutely zero problem with and rely on
You should research the number of data centers being constructed every day vs any other facilities you are talking about. The rate of DC construction right now is mindblowing. For example, Kansas City is not a data center hub but over the next 10 years there will be several hundred DCs constructed serving several GW of load demand.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:26 pm to Scruffy
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Build them in the middle of nowhere.
The middle of nowhere is not where the water or power is. Right or wrong, that's the rub.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:32 pm to Longhorn Actual
quote:Oh no…anyway.
The middle of nowhere is not where the water or power is. Right or wrong, that's the rub.
I will oppose their building on top of already built communities.
If communities build around them, like all other industries/factories/plants, I have no issue with it.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:36 pm to Scruffy
So no commercial development where existing communities are.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:36 pm to theliontamer
My biggest issue with them is the consume a lot of land and resources, and get substantial incentives relative to the amount of permanent full time jobs they produce, a number which is diminishing.
Almost any alternative industrial project is superior in the long run. They are like film productions. Massive influx of short term spend, but long term costs out weigh the benefits greatly.
Almost any alternative industrial project is superior in the long run. They are like film productions. Massive influx of short term spend, but long term costs out weigh the benefits greatly.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:38 pm to fightin tigers
quote:You consider data centers commercial development?
So no commercial development where existing communities are.
I see it as no different than plopping a sugar mill or bitcoin mining facility in the middle of the garden district because there is electricity and water there.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 12:39 pm
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