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re: How many people here wanted to go to LSU, but couldn't get in?
Posted by wm72 on 10/6/26 at 3:46 pm to theliontamer
I was going to say anyone who wanted to go, got in.
Then I thought about the posters here.
Good question.
Then I thought about the posters here.
Good question.
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re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7" ... update p7
Posted by wm72 on 10/6/26 at 2:47 pm to Robin Masters
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According to the DA anytime she wanted something to stop it did, which to my understanding, is limited to one guy kissing her.
Again, that Snapchat group text comes up:
Jane Doe did not know that a group text had been sent out inviting random guys to join in when she made her statement to the police.
Details like this is why the case is open again and drawing so much attention.
All I'm really saying is that there is a whole lot of gray area and this snapchat group text is at the heart of it all, which is why it's so strange to people how was ever lost in the shuffle.
Is it rape if a girl agrees to sex with 3 people but more come in when she's too drunk to be aware that's what's happening?
re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7" ... update p7
Posted by wm72 on 10/6/26 at 1:46 pm to Robin Masters
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You don’t see my point that it takes a degree of stupidity that’s hard to imagine to confess to rape on a group text?
So your position is that they knew they were raping her and not only advertised their guilt but also put it on the permanent record?
I have made absolutely NO claim at all about whether she was raped or not. I don't know. You don't know.
All I've said is that the girl's claim is that she was willingly having sex and doing drugs with 2 or 3 friends.
So, no they were not raping her in anyone's side of the story at this point.
But, after she was high, the girl claims one of them then sent a group text for randoms to come join in without her knowledge or approval.
That's where it would become rape if that's the way it happened.
Is it really so hard to see that this version of it COULD be true.
It's just as reasonable to think it's totally possible that fricked up college guys went way too far to look cool with their bros and crossed a line as it is to simply 100% decide she desperately wanted more and more guys she didn't know to frick her as you have.
The DA and Cornell have released contradictory statements.
Cornell claims they sent all the pertinent evidence.
However:
DA Van Houten stated that prosecutors only received a six-page statement and specific Snapchat messages, but not the specific vulgar group-chat screenshot where a fraternity member allegedly invited others during the incident
Cornell claims they sent all the pertinent evidence.
However:
DA Van Houten stated that prosecutors only received a six-page statement and specific Snapchat messages, but not the specific vulgar group-chat screenshot where a fraternity member allegedly invited others during the incident
re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7" ... update p7
Posted by wm72 on 10/6/26 at 1:15 pm to Robin Masters
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These are Cornell students, do you really think they would admit to a rape in discoverable format?
I really don't see your point. If they were so brilliant there would be no text message at all.
re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7" ... update p7
Posted by wm72 on 10/6/26 at 1:13 pm to Robin Masters
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I’ve seen this mentioned but never seen it in writing.
Of course, I don't think anyone can publish the transcript but it's definitely been reported by ABC etc that her statement "I can say with 100% confidence I was raped" is in the written Cornell police transcript.
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There was a screenshot of a group text message inviting guys to come frick her
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This could just as easily be due to her willingness to take on anyone and everyone than it a written confession that we are raping a girl.
Of course, it could be either. If I were a detective though, I think I'd be a lot more likely to investigate where a girl claims she was not OK with a group text message going out for random guys to come frick her.
Anyone who knew a lot of party girls in their 20s knew many that were cool hooking up with 2 or 3 guy friends. Group text advertisements to randoms is more of a rare bird.
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The DA was negligent, and is trying to pass the buck. That's one reason the state pulled him off the case.
That's probably the case but no one really knows for sure at this point.
Obviously, the most important detail isn't her claiming she was raped. It's the group chat screenshot of guys being invited to come frick her.
To my mind, that's far and away the strongest piece of evidence in her favor to which we are privy.
Any one of us who's partied a lot in their 20s has known girls that would hook up with 2 or 3 friends at the same time. Being cool with a text alert to random other guys to come join in is a whole different thing.
re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7" ... update p7
Posted by wm72 on 10/6/26 at 12:11 pm to baybeefeetz
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The protests are unfair. Somebody please prove that wrong.
I don't disagree with the punishments if the entire information administrators had was "slutty kids had a drug fueled orgy but no one was raped".
It actually seems to be the DA turning the heat up on Cornell though by claiming the summation his office received was missing the most important details that would have led to a deeper investigation:
1. Jane Doe made a statement to Cornell Police that she was 100% confident she was gang raped
2. There was a screenshot of a group text message inviting guys to come frick her
I assume some people -- because most people tend to just take a side based on their biases -- are assuming some officials at Cornell intentionally left out the most noteworthy evidence from the summation sent to the DA.
re: What would a truly class segregated society look like?
Posted by wm72 on 10/5/26 at 3:37 pm to theliontamer
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No food stamps, no welfare, no affordable housing, no forced mixed schooling. Would we be better off? or worse off?
Food stamps and welfare have little to do with a class segregated society. Probably a lot easier to maintain one if you don't have throngs of utterly desperate poor people to control.
Otherwise, it would be that 10% or so of the people control 95% of the wealth. They live in gated communities, send their kids to private schools and have the best heathcare in the world. The rest of the people are in debt and mainly work in service industries.
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I guess he could have said the girl attested to facts which clearly did not constitute rape. She told us it was rape in her opinion. Based on the facts she brought, her opinion was wrong.
Of course, you nor I have any idea exactly what happened.
However, if what happened is:
1. slutty college girl and her 2 or 3 slutty friends do a lot of drugs and she agrees to fool around with them
2. she gets high to the point she hardly knows what's going on or remembers many details
3. friends invite more of their random friends to frick her and do drugs off her body
If it happened like that -- and I have no idea that it did -- that Part 3 is certainly the point where it would become rape if she never consented to the invitation to more random guys for frick her.
And that text message has nothing to do with her opinion or memory,
So, whether or not the DA had the text message was probably the most crucial piece of evidence (beyond his story, her story, whether she felt embarrassed one minute and didn't want to press charges and angry the next and did etc ect etc).
I have no idea if the DA had the text message or not. But I can see where it's probably the most important detail.
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They gave it all to the DA.
I thought the DA said they left out:
Her stating she was raped (which if her opinion or not) seems pretty important to send to the investigating police detectives especially if it's supported by a text message to a friends group inviting them to come frick her?
Am I wrong about that? Did that text message stuff all come out later?
I realize most here want the girl to be wrong so badly they can't stand it.
However, that text message inviting more guys to come frick her is the exact thing which seems sketchier than horny college kids getting fricked up and crossing into gray areas.
re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7" ... update p7
Posted by wm72 on 10/5/26 at 1:25 pm to LemmyLives
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Because in the initial police report done two years ago, which she signed, she said it was consensual.
I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say :
If I were a campus police and I had a college girl claiming gang rape then saying maybe not since she took a lot of drugs and things were fuzzy and then a text telling a group of guys to come frick her.
I'd give ALL that info to the regular police as fast as I possibly could and put it on their plate.
re: More details emerge on the "Cornell 7" ... update p7
Posted by wm72 on 10/5/26 at 12:36 pm to biscuitsngravy
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But in fairness to DA, the Univ Police reportedly omitted her statements that she was raped and surrounded by a group of men. It also apparently didn't include the 'free pussy', 'come whip it out bros' invitation either.
I think that she said she was raped while surrounded by a group of men after a social media invitation for guys to come frick her --correct or not -- is why so much public opinion has been questioning why the DA didn't pursue it.
re: What are yalls early thoughts on Bama/Ga game?
Posted by wm72 on 10/5/26 at 12:29 pm to Gen Patton
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Really the only person on KD's staff that might be overrated is Grubb. There's a reason he flamed out so spectacularly in 1 year in the pros and last year was so bad in terms of the run game performance. Keelon and Klemm are making him look way better than he actually is. Feel free to correct me if that's an incorrect assessment.
That's maybe the point of this game being big in the sense of seeing this current staff make a statement that Alabama is as good as anyone.
One could just easily argue that Grubb's offense looking great with a line recruited to fit his schemes and actually block isn't as much being propped up by an O-line coach as a bare necessity for any offensive coordinator.
Time will tell.
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What is her side of the story? Is it:
Jane Doe: I consented to do drugs and have sex with 1 or 2 of my friends but then they invited other guys that had sex with me after I was too high to realize what was happening
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Well, except when it was just the initial 3, and there was a knock on the door. By that time, Male #1 was unconscious drunk on the bed. She and Male #2 were just "making out" in the buff. So when she heard the knock on the door, of course she naturally opened it, and in came Male #3. After that, she did a threesome with #2 and #3 while #1 was passed out on the bed beside them, and the door was left unlocked.
Is that really her side of the story?
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So why are the libs mad at Cornell? Sounds like they handed out plenty of punishment, deserved or not. There's not much harsher discipline a school can do than expel a student. Any criminal charges should be up to the local police department.
The contention I've read is that Cornell withheld information from the local police in order to handle it internally that would have made it more likely for the prosecutor to pursue charges at the time.
That seemed to be what the prosecutor claimed at least.
re: What are yalls early thoughts on Bama/Ga game?
Posted by wm72 on 10/5/26 at 11:49 am to antibarner
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UGA MUST WIN...if they do not their backs are to the wall and a second L could not only cost them any shot at a conference title, it could keep them home for the playoffs.
If Georgia loses, they'll be 5-1 with a loss on the road to a 6-0 Alabama that'll be getting as many overall #1 votes as anyone.
Georgia will likely still be ranked around #6 to 8.
There are no must win games for any contender at this point.
I'd argue that the game is bigger for Alabama just in the sense of having more tough road games down the stretch but not a must win for them either.
Has anyone followed this closely enough to sum up the 2 sides?
Are they?
Fraternity guys: she consented to sex with 4 or 5 of us and was ok with all 7 of us being in the room
Jane Doe: I consented to do drugs and have sex with 1 or 2 of my friends but then they invited other guys that had sex with me after I was too high to realize what was happening
Are these the basic two sides of this?
Are they?
Fraternity guys: she consented to sex with 4 or 5 of us and was ok with all 7 of us being in the room
Jane Doe: I consented to do drugs and have sex with 1 or 2 of my friends but then they invited other guys that had sex with me after I was too high to realize what was happening
Are these the basic two sides of this?
My guess is something like 35-31 where everyone goes away saying those 2 teams are very good and pretty equal
re: Looks like South Carolina is not serious about football
Posted by wm72 on 10/5/26 at 9:38 am to CarolinaGamecock99
"school now subsidizes the athletics department . . . to the tune of about $40 million"
I remember when the main argument for universities to continue Division 1 college football was "look at how much money it makes for the schools"
I remember when the main argument for universities to continue Division 1 college football was "look at how much money it makes for the schools"
re: Padres got screwed
Posted by wm72 on 10/4/26 at 10:17 am to FlaTiger25
I'm a big Padres fan and that was about as bad of luck as you can possibly have.
Would have likely been one of the great moments in Padres' history considering Ty France's big comeback -- or better, breakout at 34 years old after considering retirement -- story.
Padres would have sent out Miller to very likely go up 1-0 and have the upper hand in the series.
However, that kind of quirky, weird luck is baseball.
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