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re: Are there any confirmed negative impacts of data centers?
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:49 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:49 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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We celebrate a new paper mill,
you mean like the paper mill that has heavily polluted the Perdido Bay for decades? We don't celebrate that.
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:51 am to Black n Gold
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They point was to show how massive they are. I was thinking I've seen furniture distribution centers that large.
Maybe some small ones. The one they are building in Delhi is one of the largest structures on earth.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:51 am to Penrod
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The water complaint could be legitimate in arid climates like Arizona and Utah, but it’s silly in the eastern half of the US.
Is it though? There's a finite volume of clean water. I'm surrounded by half empty lakes in north central florida, and companies like nestle sucking a million gallons a day, for bottled water. The state gets a few hundred dollars annually for this permit. These businesses should be run out of the state and the people who approved these resource thefts should be put on a fricking pike
the few jobs they do offer in no way offsets the damage they do.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:52 am to theliontamer
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They use a lot of power ... ok, every industrial facility uses a lot of power.
A ton of facilities produce their own power OR pay above residential rates.
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They use a lot of water ... ok, every industrial facility uses a lot of water.
Just my opinion but all industrial facilities should not be allowed to pull water from aquifers, especially if the aquifer is used for municipal drinking water. They should be required to use surface waters and be required to purify the water at their own expense, not municipal waters
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:53 am to KosmoCramer
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It's a Chinese psy op, pretty clear at this point.
Yep. Just like anti-solar and anti-ev sentiments.
China going all in on solar and EVs while convincing the US to hold ourselves back.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:53 am to theliontamer
Shady backroom sweetheart deals and tax breaks for billionaire investors to swim in profits in NYC while, locally, noise levels devalue property, energy bills rise, certain communities have water strain all while few good jobs are created.
It's a corporate America dream scenario.
It's a corporate America dream scenario.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:53 am to theliontamer
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Are there any confirmed negative impacts of data centers?
yes. to the Chinese. they are losing market share and wasting their money trying to make them a negative here in the US
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:54 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Yep. Just like anti-solar and anti-ev sentiments.
There are PLENTY of reasons to be anti solar and anti EV that are legitimate
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:55 am to Scruffy
Farmland value has skyrocketed though. Louisiana avg is $3200 per acre. Richland parish has jumped to $20,000 per acre.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:55 am to Oilfieldbiology
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There are PLENTY of reasons to be anti solar and anti EV that are legitimate
Psyop working as planned
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:58 am to theliontamer
It drives up utility/electrical bills and it displaces a lot of people from homes due to companies buying up land
Posted on 7/22/26 at 9:59 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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Local politicians are all on board with it without requiring the companies to pay higher rates for water/power which they pass along to all the residents. Very few jobs are created and they use massive amounts of land.
All of this. They should only be allowed in current abandoned buildings, old krogers, walmarts, malls. Not farm land
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:04 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
Do you know these statements to be true? How many jobs are created at the average data center? If all local politicians are corrupt and siphon money from their community to line their pockets, then isn't that a problem with out political system and not data centers? I would say development in impoverished rural communities is always a good thing. If 50 jobs are created in a town of 1,000 people, that is a lot of jobs. Enough to invigorate the area.
It is always required for a development to offset their environmental impact. Let the town decide what tax/power/water deal works best for them. Blindly banning data center construction because of potential fraud is foolish.
It is always required for a development to offset their environmental impact. Let the town decide what tax/power/water deal works best for them. Blindly banning data center construction because of potential fraud is foolish.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:05 am to kywildcatfanone
Environmentally no
Economically yes - incremental need for utilities to spend money on power infrastructure leads to higher rates
Economically yes - incremental need for utilities to spend money on power infrastructure leads to higher rates
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:07 am to Texas Tea 123
All the listed reasons blamed on data centers are due to politicians they elected and that will get reelected.
But people are squawking about data centers.
But people are squawking about data centers.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:09 am to theliontamer
You fool, we only had 3 years to drop all vestiges of a first world life and resort to eating bugs to save the planet, now we're doomed.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:11 am to theliontamer
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If 50 jobs are created in a town of 1,000 people, that is a lot of jobs. Enough to invigorate the area.
It is always required for a development to offset their environmental impact. Let the town decide what tax/power/water deal works best for them.
Aquifers extend well beyond the boundaries of a shite hole town with only 1000 people. There's no way to offset water usage, that doesn't involve taking water from elsewhere. 50 jobs is a shitty return on affecting millions nearby.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:14 am to theliontamer
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Are there any confirmed negative impacts of data centers?
Non local ownership
This is akin to the colonization policies of Empire Europe in the Americas.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:16 am to Texas Tea 123
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Environmentally no
If the data center is using evaporative cooling and pulling from an aquifer or pulling from a volume challenged surface water source there is absolutely an environmental impact.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 10:16 am to MoarKilometers
Are they all using aquifer water? Are they not treating it and returning it to the environment? Can they not use river water? Or are you just assuming the worst case scenario is the widespread norm.
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