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re: Are modern fathers spending too much time with their kids?

Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:17 pm to
The greatest men in history were those whose father spent 100% of their childhood with their sons:

Daniel Boone
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Jefferson
Henry Ford
Cornelius Vanderbilt

Leaving your family to go off to make a living for long hours in the day, is rather a new concept historically, and I think we are seeing it spur the decline of society. Boys who spent significant time away from their fathers for whatever reason during their youth:

Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Benedict Arnold
Jeffrey Dahmer
Napoleon (who ironically commented on this very same subject "The future destiny of the child is always the work of the mother.")
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:17 pm to
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what caused men to become so pussified since ww2? it couldn't possibly have anything to do with fathers doing way more motherly/feminine things around the house?

No offense but are you retarded by chance?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:30 pm to
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Napoleon (who ironically commented on this very same subject "The future destiny of the child is always the work of the mother.")



Are you really lumping one of the greatest military commanders in history with the others?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:32 pm to
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Are you really lumping one of the greatest military commanders in history with the others?
there would not be a United States without Benedict Arnold
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:38 pm to
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The greatest men

quote:

Daniel Boone
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Jefferson
Henry Ford
Cornelius Vanderbilt


Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:47 pm to
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Is the increase in fathers taking more active, feminine roles (as opposed to the 1950s dad w/ his head buried in the newspaper who doesn't hug his kids trope) over the past few decades responsible for the softening, or pussification, of the western male?


You literally have it the exact opposite. The pussification of men has to deal with so many kids growing up without a father in their homes. Young boys who don't know their father/has a terrible relationship with him, growing up in a completely feminine household being raised by their Mom, Grandma, etc. There's plenty of boys who grow up without a single male role model. That's the issue. Not a dad spending quality time with his child
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:56 pm to
Nope.

I tell my kids i love them all the time and hug them all the time.

In fact, my boy and i will be at the LSU basketball game tomorrow night and I’m sure at some point he will be sitting in my lap happily talking and pointing out stuff in the game.

All of that will make me super happy
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:01 am to
I am sorry for your poor education, but without men of their caliber, there is no America. And without their version of America, the world is shite
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:03 am to
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Are you really lumping one of the greatest military commanders in history with the others?

If you have a problem with it, take it up with Thomas Jefferson
quote:

In a letter to John Adams, Jefferson concluded that Napoleon had by his own words proved that he was "a moral monster, against whom every hand should have been lifted to slay him."
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:24 am to
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Your average US family works for a small business. 67% of the US works for a business with fewer than 500 employees. These aren't exactly Wall Street banks having corporate getaways in Jackson Hole while they discuss share buybacks over giving Jenny in accounting a raise.

I was unaware only wall street banks turned a profit in America. Good for them.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:26 am to
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iterally have it the exact opposite. The pussification of men has to deal with so many kids growing up without a father in their homes. Young boys who don't know their father/has a terrible relationship with him, growing up in a completely feminine household being raised by their Mom, Grandma, etc. There's plenty of boys who grow up without a single male role model. That's the issue. Not a dad spending quality time with his child


Bingo

They grow up without a strong father and so often their only male influences are rappers, ballers and gangbangers. Because their mother opened up her snatch for every Tom Dick and Harry and because she didn’t value herself no one found that she was worth staying around for and left her with a frick trophy, and the taxpayer was forced to pay for her brood. And so the cycle continued with girls getting knocked up at young ages and the boys ending up dead, in prison or in gangs. Not contributing to society and perpetuating the cycle.





This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 12:27 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:32 am to
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there would not be a United States without Benedict Arnold


He really did get a raw deal
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:48 am to
Candidate for worst take of the year. Delete your account and start over with a fresh new alter ffs.

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:55 am to
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The biggest pussies I know run away if kids are even mentioned. Being a father is the most manly thing I have ever done with my life.



It does give one a wonderful opportunity for some nauseating virtue signalling.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:14 am to
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It does give one a wonderful opportunity for some nauseating virtue signalling.




Wait...being a good dad is virtue signaling?

Maybe if someone is doing it FB style to garner the approval of others, but just being a good dad and being there for your kids is one of the most rewarding things in life.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:16 am to
yup. 100 @greatlakestiger is junk
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134931 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:39 am to
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In a letter to John Adams, Jefferson concluded that Napoleon had by his own words proved that he was "a moral monster, against whom every hand should have been lifted to slay him."



Great men are very rarely “good” men. I suppose you have a point. Before Hitler emerged as the modern bogeyman conjured up to portray “evil” (and I’d argue Stalin should have embodied that role) , to all but the French Napoleon was very likely the little big baddie. Lampooned as a miniature maniac (which is nothing but propaganda, he was normal sized), there was no love lost for him in Europe or abroad.
Before him it would been...Ivan the Terrible, Ghengis Khan, Atilla the Hun, Caesar (unless you were Roman, Xerxes.

Still, I find Napoleon fascinating.

Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:31 am to
No such thing
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:34 am to
So much stunted emotion and genuine ignorance in this thread. Par for the OP.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:46 am to
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what caused men to become so pussified since ww2? it couldn't possibly have anything to do with fathers doing way more motherly/feminine things around the house?


No it’s the feminization if the school system in general, zero tolerance policies on fighting that lead to rule following kids never fighting and getting picked on instead and learning to not stand up for themselves but rather tattle telling, and the movement that feelings are more important than facts.

It’s not because dad sweeps or does the dishes or God forbid shows that he loves his children
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 4:47 am
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