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re: Are modern fathers spending too much time with their kids?

Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 am to
Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 am to
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My parents used to call them helicopter parents because they were always hovering around their kids, but now cal them lawn mower parents as they look to mow down every obstacle in their child’s way


Spending time with kids does not equal being helicopter parents.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 am to
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Didn’t you know manning up and caring for your family is now unmanly according to GreatLakes?
such sensitive little Nancies in here.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:36 am to
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Having a working wife isn’t manly



What if my wife wanted to do more than just stay at home?

Should I be raising my daughter to just grow up to be someone's wife and not be able to take care of herself?

This shtick of yours is so dumb.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:37 am to
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What if my wife wanted to do more than just stay at home?


allowing your wife to make her own decisions is not manly

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:39 am to
Didn’t say it did. But you have to have noticed more parents far less likely to let their kids out of their sight now than in the past. Think of letting your 7 year old
Ride his/her bike to the neighborhood park to meet friends. How many would let them do it alone as opposed to going themselves?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:39 am to
It’s not sensitive to call out your inconsistencies
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:40 am to
Pre-industrial revolution, father's spent almost all their time with their boys out in the fields.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:41 am to
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Dual incomes ruined this country. Life is meant to have a provider and nurturer. If you have two providers the kids are missing out.


This is dumb. You can do both.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61236 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:41 am to
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What if my wife wanted to do more than just stay at home?
you chose poorly, IMO

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Should I be raising my daughter to just grow up to be someone's wife and not be able to take care of herself?
She can go to school to be a nurse or teacher
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42541 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:41 am to
And if you worked a trade, your son spent all day working with you as an apprentice. Must have been why all the boys born in the 1700’s and 1800’s were sissies. Too much time with Their dads
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:41 am to
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Didn’t say it did


I gotcha

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Think of letting your 7 year old
Ride his/her bike to the neighborhood park to meet friends.


I have a 10 and 7 y/o. They all still do that, even with their friends. I went squirrel hunting the other day and saw 2 kids fishing in a creek and bicycles nearby. They were both 9, not a house anywhere nearby.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42541 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:42 am to
That’s freaking awesome to hear and see. There’s hope yet
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24850 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:44 am to
If you don’t help your wife change diapers you are actually a frickin dick.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:46 am to
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The most manly thing, by definition, can’t be performing maternal duties.


Without using archaic societal expectations, what are "maternal duties"? Because outside of breastfeeding, I can't think of an aspect of parenting that is gender specific.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2863 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:47 am to
Depends on the dad. I know some who don't discipline their kids bc their wife read some horseshite book.

If you actually parent...which means sometimes having to discipline your child, then no. I don't think it pussifies them.

The problem is more with men modeling themselves on pop culture dads who are weak, submissive, and always the butt of the joke.

Dual incomes might contribute indirectly to this situation, but don't cause it.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41619 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:32 am to
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Having a working wife isn’t manly


Why?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53723 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:33 am to
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If you don’t help your wife change diapers you are actually a frickin dick.

I changed diapers. My dad didn't though. It wasn't really that uncommon back then.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27940 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:39 am to
Things you don't hear at someone's death bed:

"I wish I would have worked more"
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61592 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:44 am to
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The most manly thing to do is to get shite done. If that means you have to do it then you do it.

dude I am sitting in a Beta convention. I ain’t judging, but it isn’t manly.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:34 am to
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dude I am sitting in a Beta convention. I ain’t judging, but it isn’t manly.


Yeah because being a sailor on a ship headed to the new world, while being flogged regularly and otherwise treated like crap while you battle dysentery and eat stale bread just to make the guy who owns the ship wealthy just sounds so alpha and manly.

Not everyone is Hernan Cortez baw. Most sailors were on the same level as the guys who were volun-told to be cannon fodder in some rich man’s pointless land dispute.
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