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If Jews and Israel didn’t exist we’d still be heavily involved in the middle east because oil is still important.


The US could be totally self reliant on oil from domestic production, its not the 1970s (we have shale/frac'ing now). The US is currently producing more oil than any country in world history, at 13.8mmbbls/d
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Every night?

That can't be good baw. Get your bloodwork done if this has been going on a long time to see if your liver enzymes are out of whack which could indicate some serious issues.


fun fact, the top 10% of drinkers (24 million Americans) drink over 10 drinks/night, on average.


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You pretty useful idiot,


Lmao, pot, meet kettle
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So we have 77 years of history and experience that these folks cannot take care of themselves


Well neither can the Israelis by that logic considering how much money we give them on an annual basis and all the wars we have fought on their behalf, not to mention the land the US and UK gave to them post WW2
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Only a handful of people have seen your post so far. Theres still time to delete it.



I think its a fricked up situation all around, but its not hard to find videos/doctor's testimony online to understand what Israel is doing right now is not morally right by any stretch of the imagination, at all, unless youre into killing babies, children, women and civilians
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From 2014 to 2020 alone, UN agencies spent nearly $4.5 billion in Gaza, and overall aid to Palestinians totaled more than $40 billion between 1994 and 2020.


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*this is a frequent reality of other Muslim countries not accepting Gazans. Know a tree by its fruits.



Well they dont have access to much resources or money for the last 77 or so years
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They are running out of water.


Same thing happening in Egypt
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Why doesn't Egypt let them in?


They have a bunch of their own problems



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Egypt, the most populous country in the Arab world, is facing a crisis: a growing shortage of food and water. How do you feed a population of 113 million people – estimated to grow to 160 million over the next 25 years – when even water is running short? The Nile, Egypt’s lifeline, is under stress. The government is drilling deep into the Sahara to tap underground aquifers and urging families to have fewer children. But are these measures enough? Edouard Dropsy and Mathilde Delvigne report.


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Just think how great it would be if we had that here. We’d just need to sacrifice all of our rights and freedoms and give all power and wealth to a religious oligarchy and refuse any semblance of wealth for the masses along with rigid class hierarchy and put our women in chains and brutally enforce these rules with iron fisted capital punishment.


for people who commit rape and murder, sounds like a great idea

Are you insinuating women dont have rights in the middle east?

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Alenush Terian: An astronomer and the first female professor of physics in Iran, who joined the faculty in 1964. She was one of the founders of the solar observatory at the Institute of Geophysics at the University of Tehran.


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refuse any semblance of wealth for the masses along with rigid class hierarchy


this doesnt remind you of anywhere familiar?
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Have you met the palestinians in our country??? It’s a frequent claim by a lot more than Zionists.

Everywhere they go they cause trouble and play victim. Gaza and its muslim residents were better off under Israeli control.

But I think you know this.


The entire middle east is practically safer in terms of homicide rate than the USA

Some of the people posting in this thread/on this board probably regularly travel to the countries for vacations with highest homicide rates with no issue or qualms

Hell, Baton Rouge had a murder rate of 51.8/100,000 in 2022. For comparison, Palestine had a murder rate of 1.4/100,000 in 2022 and Israel had a murder rate of 1.63/100,000 in 2022 where the entire USA had a murder rate of 6.4/100,000' in 2022



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You went full Gaucho. Never go full Gaucho. It was fun to watch, though.


Hey ya live and ya learn
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no, I've never been the victim of a terrorist attack


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anything that hurts muslims is good for us


Except when the good Muslims, aka Saudis, want to give us billions of dollars, then they’re all of a sudden the “good guys” lmfao

Do you know any Muslims? I’ve worked in oil and gas my whole life and have never met an unpleasant one so I’m curious where all the bad ones are? Esp considering all the 9/11 hijackers were literally from Saudi Arabia

re: Deep State gonna Deep State

Posted by hubertcumberdale on 11/18/25 at 11:28 pm to
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Which is exactly why I pray these files are released.


Might want to start praying harder
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a lot easier to be that back in those days


Wouldn’t be that hard today if any politician had a spine

Please explain to me what benefit any war in the Middle East has had to any normal American, other than siphoning our tax dollars?

re: Saudis are an elite Ally

Posted by hubertcumberdale on 11/18/25 at 11:18 pm to
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They don’t have a problem with human trafficking.


Since when does the US govt give two shits ab this?

re: Saudis are an elite Ally

Posted by hubertcumberdale on 11/18/25 at 11:11 pm to
So Saudis are the good Muslims and the rest are bad Muslims? What country did the 9/11 hijackers come from?
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Our Founding Fathers devised a political and economic system that liberated more people, created more wealth and upward mobility… than any other system ever conceived


Our founding fathers were isolationists
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I still think we need to concentrate on making nuclear as near 100% safe as in humanly possible -


I’m obviously biased but nuclear will always pose an existential threat to human society as seen across many continents over time
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I mean yeah but you were so excited to refute me with your charts





tough to tell when or what people are serious about on this board at times