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re: Alabama sheriff’s deputy & capital murder suspect run away together - UPDATE: CAPTURED
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:15 pm to RazorBroncs
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:15 pm to RazorBroncs
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imagine crossing the borders of some of the 3rd world countries in central and south America.
A lot of those countries you can cross with a bus ticket without showing an ID. I crossed from Brazil to Paraguay once on a bus, and US citizens officially need a visa for Paraguay, but they didn't check any of us.
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:22 pm to Gris Gris
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Do you know what her condition is?
Serious condition.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:27 pm to Master of Sinanju
Only on the OT do you Find a US marshal giving criminals the recipe for successful escapes.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:28 pm to Tiger Ryno
I'm convinced they're from Lawrence County. They both at least had to have spent plenty of time in that county drinking the water. No doubt.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:30 pm to RazorBroncs
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Even the local authorities weren't exactly aware they were missing for several hours, as she had manipulated the schedule to appear like she was taking him to a mental health evaluation. It was easily long enough that they could be out of the state and near (or across) the border.
Almost sounds like she was surprised she ended up having that much of a head start. Even with her "planning", she may have assumed that she had one or two hours before they were onto her.
Because, yeah, if you were acting under the assumption that you had 6-24 hours before the heat really got turned up, get your asses south of the border.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:31 pm to The People
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Without compromising agency methods and sources, what’s an estimated man power allotment for a high value target such as this escaped capital murderer?
I'm no expert here, but I believe that the Marshals involve local authorities in their attempts to apprehend suspects. I don't think there are actually that many true U.S. Marshals. I bet there was a small handful of actual Marshals assigned to this.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:31 pm to RazorBroncs
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If I were them, I would've left for Mexico immediately from the jail and kept heading south to one of the smaller airports in the Yukatan peninsula, where I caught a flight to a non-extradition country.
Personally I’d have headed to FL, chartered a yacht and jumped over to Cuba. From there they could have pretty much picked any other country without extradition like Venezuela. Or stay in Cuba with the $90k they had and lived like royalty.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:35 pm to cable
Sounds like the leading theory for why they didn't really go anywhere else is that his priority quickly become scoring meth over and over.
Indiana ranks in the top 3 of meth-related seizures (the law enforcement kind) and ranks #1 in percent increase in meth related arrests/seizures.
Indiana ranks in the top 3 of meth-related seizures (the law enforcement kind) and ranks #1 in percent increase in meth related arrests/seizures.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:37 pm to bikerack
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Sounds like the leading theory for why they didn't really go anywhere else is that his priority quickly become scoring meth over and over.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:40 pm to Jax Teller
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The greatest love story of our time has come to an end :(
Apparently you've never heard of BawPaw and Taylor
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:43 pm to cable
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I'm no expert here, but I believe that the Marshals involve local authorities in their attempts to apprehend suspects. I don't think there are actually that many true U.S. Marshals. I bet there was a small handful of actual Marshals assigned to this.
I work in the industry. I am well aware of the use of local task force guys to do some of the legal lifiting to circumvent Presidentailly appointed Federal judges and magistrates.
My question was for a rough estimate for all of law enforcement involved, not just Sam Gerard and his team.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:45 pm to bikerack
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Sounds like the leading theory for why they didn't really go anywhere else is that his priority quickly become scoring meth over and over.
Mexico has plenty of meth
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Indiana ranks in the top 3 of meth-related seizures (the law enforcement kind) and ranks #1 in percent increase in meth related arrests/seizures.
0 chance more meth is seized in Indiana than any of the 4 states bordering Mexico.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:52 pm to MoarKilometers
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0 chance more meth is seized in Indiana than any of the 4 states bordering Mexico.
This was the list I saw from 2018...sure, things may have changed a little...
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The states where meth-related seizures were most prevalent in 2018 were:
1. Michigan
2. New York
3. Indiana
4. Illinois
5. North Carolina
6. California
7. Pennsylvania
8. Tennessee
9. Ohio
10. Florida
https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/meth-addiction/meth-capital/
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:55 pm to bikerack
frick some meth
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:56 pm to MoarKilometers
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0 chance more meth is seized in Indiana than any of the 4 states bordering Mexico.
Meth isn’t even on the top 5 list of drugs being muled across the border
and if it is, it’s a distant 5th
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:56 pm to bikerack
I need to know the role the nipple clamps played in all of this.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:03 pm to cable
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Without compromising agency methods and sources, what’s an estimated man power allotment for a high value target such as this escaped capital murderer?
I'm no expert here, but I believe that the Marshals involve local authorities in their attempts to apprehend suspects. I don't think there are actually that many true U.S. Marshals. I bet there was a small handful of actual Marshals assigned to this.
Correct. I really can't answer "how many of us were involved" because it highly depends on what the poster meant by "involved." As far as receiving updates and Intel, the whole service is involved and on the lookout. If there's an actionable tip coming in from somewhere, that region's office will usually dispatch 1 or 2 Marshals to scope it out long term. Even then they would take a backseat to local and state agencies unless the charges were federal or the perp crossed state lines.
In a case like this that received a lot of nationwide attention, the regional agency probably had 2 to 4 Marshals involved in "boots on the ground" investigation. But like you said, that national attention also applies to the state and local agencies and they supplied 99% of the manpower. There were probably dozens of local and state officers involved in the actual arrest, including the state bureau of investigation (basically the State's version of the FBI).
In a case like this, Marshals are mostly there because of federal charges and the crossing of state lines, and the potential to escape the country. Most of the heavy lifting is done by the state bureaus.
So the short answer is that ALL of the Marshals were aware and receiving up to date Intel and tips, but maybe 2 to 4 were actually there on the ground in Evansville and the surrounding area. In a less "visible" case than this, it's usually 1 to 2.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:07 pm to moontigr
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Apparently you've never heard of BawPaw and Taylor
I stand correctedPosted on 5/9/22 at 7:10 pm to Iron Lion
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Explain how this is possible. He is a convicted felon who escaped from prison with the help of a correction officer who is on the run with him. They were both wanted by the US Marshall. How would either of them able to board an airline?
It was not noticed that they were missing for ALMOST AN ENTIRE DAY.. that’s a lot of time to get out of the country .
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:15 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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I’m not sure why you’d be surprised.
I'm not surprised per se, just very disappointed in the ending. This had potential, but fell very flat.
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