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re: AI controlled vehicle kill switches appear to be coming to new vehicles later this year

Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1777 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:01 pm to
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I believe per capita is like per 100,000… or 1,000… dunno, I’m drinking right now.


No. Per capita is per person
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38053 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:02 pm to
At this point we really can abolish the police. They aren’t doing shite any way, protecting people. They don’t prevent felonies or misdemeanors. And if the cars are going to self regulate DUI, the police won’t be arresting drunk drivers. So what they hell are they offering for all the taxes we’re paying?
Law enforcement has been feckless since Covid. This is just eliminating another of their functions.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:02 pm to
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No. Per capita is per person


Like I said…. I’m drankin’…
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13793 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:03 pm to
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Why would anyone be against this?


Because it’s going to be a complete clusterfrick. Go out to dinner and have a glass or two of wine, and all of a sudden your car won’t work. You really think these things will work? Are we all going to have to blow every time we start the car?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78443 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:04 pm to
Watching TD develop from skeptical college kids to boomer-type geriatrics who believe everything they read online has been fascinating.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
11140 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:07 pm to
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blood-alcohol detection system that prevents or limits operation when BAC meets or exceeds the legal limit of 0.08%.


I'm all for this. Alcohol makes some people do very stupid things, like driving and killing a crossing guard.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12849 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:10 pm to
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Why would anyone be against this?

Let’s see..

1. Because AI systems alone still can’t reliably detect whether a driver is impaired without a horrible false positive rate.

2. Because data collected by these systems (likely including driver-facing cameras) will be sold to various data brokers, hacked by malicious third parties, and stolen by the government.

3. Because any sort of chemical detection system (likely including breathalyzers) will require some sort of calibration.

4. Because all of this would just make vehicles even more expensive and create even more maintenance headaches.

.. just off the top of my head.

ETA: We are still a long way from any of this becoming real, though. Remains to be seen how the NHTSA actually goes about it. AFAIK they still haven’t said much about what, if anything, might end up being required.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 9:13 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139474 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:17 am to
Not mine
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24176 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:36 am to
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Watching TD develop from skeptical college kids to boomer-type geriatrics who believe everything they read online has been fascinating.

says the COVID vax truther
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53472 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:39 am to
The real double whammy is cops will assume every car on the side of the road is a drunk. You can be changing your tire and have to do with demands for a FST.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17428 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:48 am to
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Why would anyone be against this?



I think some are against it because of the fear of what's next, the slippery slope argument. If they keep putting things in to control us how long before they put a switch in our houses to dictate what time we have to go to bed at night? As an example
Posted by jacksajester
Metry
Member since Jun 2014
2327 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:00 am to
I can’t imagine how anyone could be opposed to this..
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115467 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:07 am to
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You can be changing your tire and have to do with demands for a FST


Decline it. You are not required to submit to it or perform it.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
3532 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:12 am to
What about when the AI reads you are not able to drive in a life or death situation, bc your stress levels are way too high?
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20635 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:21 am to
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This is saving us from drunk arse Memorial Day Revelers driving a hummer towing a boat from crashing into you at a decent rate of speed at a red light (that's what happened to me).


It’s not saving you from anything. It’s not like this law coming into effect and assuming all of us are drinking and driving, replaces all the vehicles on the road.

Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15199 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:23 am to
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A passive performance-monitoring system that continuously observes a driver’s behavior and restricts or prevents vehicle operation if the system determines the driver may be impaired;
or
A blood-alcohol detection system that prevents or limits operation when BAC meets or exceeds the legal limit of 0.08%.


The reason is limiting our ability to be mobile and do as we please.
Our pushback on EV's (which would've done the same) has caused this.

So when driving out in the middle of nowhere your new S580 will be haulted and your family wll be stranded.

And what exactly wll this " passive performance-monitoring system" do?
If you look funny on the cars internal camera system I'm, sure it will think you're inebriated. What if the system sees you yawning?

NOw if the system can detect alcahol thats fine. HOw the hell can it do that?
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8219 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:26 am to
Alcohol consumption is on a downward trend, is this going to know if you’re high?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21846 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:26 am to
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It’s not saving you from anything. It’s not like this law coming into effect and assuming all of us are drinking and driving, replaces all the vehicles on the road.


True... it would take many years to realize any real benefit. And drunk assholes could find ways to circumvent it, I'm sure.

What would really help, in SC at least, is actually punishing drunk drivers. The real problem here has been decades of laxity in prosecuting and punishing.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
7092 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:32 am to

According to DUI.org


quote:

Based on DUI death rates per 100,000 residents, these are the 10 most dangerous states for drunk driving, with arrest rates included for additional context: State DUI Deaths per 100,000 DUI Arrests per 100,000 South Carolina 7.66 266.90 Montana 6.28 366.00 Wyoming 6.15 493.44 Arizona 5.76 284.74 New Mexico 5.61 260.27 Texas 5.53 194.19 Alabama 5.53 173.59 Mississippi 5.27 410.85 Tennessee 5.19 287.18 Arkansas 5.11 225.12
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 7:34 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59283 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:41 am to
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A blood-alcohol detection system that prevents or limits operation when BAC meets or exceeds the legal limit of 0.08%.


How about a system that detects pot?

And then a system that detects rowdy kids?

And then one which detects when the streets may be "too slick"?

And then one which just shuts down based on the possibility of bad weather?

I personally can't wait until the world is covered in bubble wrap to keep my precious self safe.
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