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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Name me one other top 60 player who can be completely taken out of a series to the point he's unplayable by Lou fricking Dort.
BI is so fricking soft it hurts.
BI is so fricking soft it hurts.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:33 am to ghost2most
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Name me one other top 60 player who can be completely taken out of a series to the point he's unplayable by Lou fricking Dort.
BI is so fricking soft it hurts.
Emotional thinking: confirmed.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:34 am to Soggymoss
I’m pretty sure Sengun is untouchable, despite the rumors. Boat has sailed on him. The time for teams to get him out of Houston was when he went 16th in the draft and/or before last year when Udoka was brought in and before Sengun had a better age 21 season than Jokic.
And There is absolutely No way in hell
Houston would trade Sengun AND Green, Whitmore, JSJ and #3 for a 36 year old Durant to play w D Brooks, Vanfleet, and Amen Thompson
And There is absolutely No way in hell
Houston would trade Sengun AND Green, Whitmore, JSJ and #3 for a 36 year old Durant to play w D Brooks, Vanfleet, and Amen Thompson
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:35 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Houston would trade Sengun AND Green, Whitmore, JSJ and #3 for a 36 year old Durant to play w D Brooks, Vanfleet, and Amen Thompson
Yeah, the Suns would have done that already. lol
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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If Trae bought in, I think ATL would have done a lot better the past 2 years I doubt they would be blowing it up.
Buy into what? A position that’s not suited to him? Being a small off ball guard. They blowing it up because what happened was what most knowledgeable basketball people predicted, a backcourt of Trae and Murray wouldn’t work.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:38 am to Mad Scientist26
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I’m starting to warm up to the idea of Trae and Zion in the pick n roll
I’m not sure if Trae can be that person to unlock Zion as a roll man, but stats show that he isn’t very good at that. He has been almost exclusively the PnR Ball Handler, and he seems to be lost as a screen setter.
Now this could be because we haven’t had a decent table setter since Lonzo/Jrue, but he isn’t comfortable in that role. Almost all of his offensive usage has been in ISO, ISO Post-Ups, or PnR Ball Handler.
He obviously struggled to adapt to playing off-ball in Borego’s offense, but maybe that’s because he didn’t have the right player there to unlock him.
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I’m not sure we want him to change his game that much, or if he even can change it that much. If that’s the case…then Trae is certainly not the player to necessarily play off of him, because he doesn’t move off-ball well.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:46 am to 3PieceSpicy
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And There is absolutely No way in hell Houston would trade Sengun AND Green, Whitmore, JSJ and #3 for a 36 year old Durant to play w D Brooks, Vanfleet, and Amen Thompson
Yesterday everyone was saying there’s no way in hell Brooklyn would get 6 picks for Bridges, yet here we are.
A year and a half ago everyone said no way Brooklyn would get two good young players and 5 picks with swaps for Durant, yet there we were.
Don’t discount what teams wanting superstars will give up, especially when Houston would still keep those Suns picks
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:48 am to Soggymoss
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Don’t discount what teams wanting superstars will give up, especially when Houston would still keep those Suns picks
Part of the realistic discussions, per the Starting Lineup on XM this morning, is Houston giving those Suns picks back. I'm not sure who Hou is willing to send out, though.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:50 am to SaintEB
This trade would be worth it for the press conferencce:
BI, DD, Hawkins for KD and Eric Gordon
BI, DD, Hawkins for KD and Eric Gordon
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:51 am to Soggymoss
quote:I just don't see Griff blowing up a 49 win team in one offseason. I know we are all disappointed that the 49 win team did not progress in the playoffs, but hard to see Griff just blowing it up completely by trading CJ and Bi and replacing JV while dumping a lot of future picks in one offseason. I could be wrong, but do not see it.
It’s moot now though, Detroit is renouncing his rights so they won’t be able to S&T him, so I would pivot to the CJ/Nance for Cam and Clax deal, still do the Trae deal. Send all those picks i don’t give a shite
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:51 am to Soggymoss
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Yesterday everyone was saying there’s no way in hell Brooklyn would get 6 picks for Bridges, yet here we are.
1 package is (6) picks for a guy in his prime, that went to College with half of the other team, arriving in a major big market, costing the team 0 player assets.
The other package is valued at (10-15)1st rd picks for a 36y/o who isn't going to win a championship on his own (Couldn't even do it in his prime) while losing all of the assets they've acquired the previous 5 years.
You wild
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:53 am to Dantheman504
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The other package is valued at (10-15)1st rd picks
10-15 picks? For 3 young players? Lmao
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while losing all of the assets they've acquired the previous 5 years.
They lose 3-4 players and a single pick… they keep control of all future picks including Suns picks. Ishbia won’t rebuild, he will want veterans
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:54 am to ghost2most
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Name me one other top 60 player who can be completely taken out of a series to the point he's unplayable by Lou fricking Dort.
Can I hyperextend their knee a few weeks before the series?
We've made the playoffs twice in the last 3 years, and the play-in once.
BI has played in all of those game.
Zion has played in ZERO.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Hawks were 12th and 7th the past 2 seasons in offensive rating.
We just saw him outright refuse to operate Snyder's PNR scheme to play hero ball instead, which led to disaster the past 2 years
119 and 118 Ortg past 2 seasons with Trae on court.
Disaster!!!
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:55 am to Townedrunkard
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They blowing it up because what happened was what most knowledgeable basketball people predicted, a backcourt of Trae and Murray wouldn’t work.
Because Trae refused to buy in, both to this more efficient/better role AND Snyder's offense/scheme.
Had he done both, ATL would have done a lot better in terms of W/L
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:55 am to NOSHAU
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I just don't see Griff blowing up a 49 win team in one offseason. I know we are all disappointed that the 49 win team did not progress in the playoffs, but hard to see Griff just blowing it up completely by trading CJ and Bi and replacing JV while dumping a lot of future picks in one offseaso
Now replace "49 wins" with 40/ 42/ 46/ etcc...
The result has been the same. Barely make playoffs/ barely miss playoffs/ first rd elimination
Another year of "we did ___ well but got nowhere"
That's a no for me dawg
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:57 am to Dantheman504
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That's a no for me dawg
Agreed. With 49 wins we were still the 8 seed with the west getting better. Look at the Kings last year- stayed the same and fell out of the playoffs.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:59 am to Soggymoss
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10-15 picks? For 3 young players? Lmao
Uhhhhh yeah:
#3 = (2) picks
Whitmore= (1) pick
JSJ= (2-3)
Green= (2-3)
Sengun= (3-4)
Even if you take their minimum value with no additional assets attached then that's (10) 1st rd picks base value that they are losing. Not including essentially wasting the last 5 years on everything
And Houston isn't taking (2-3) mid 20's picks for any of those players... So whatever value you think they have i'd probably double or triple it.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:00 am to Pels_Yaz
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Agreed. With 49 wins we were still the 8 seed with the west getting better. Look at the Kings last year- stayed the same and fell out of the playoffs.
Yeah, realistically nothing we do will matter because we just arent good enough. Trae Young or not we're still a play in team
Now would be probably the perfect time to trade zion after he just played 70 games.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:00 am to Pels_Yaz
49 wins aside, there were countless games that we could/should have won, but our offense turned to complete dogshit in the 4th quarter and we ended up losing
What's the point of running it back if your roster can't get a win in crunch time?
What's the point of running it back if your roster can't get a win in crunch time?
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