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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:58 am to A Menace to Sobriety
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:58 am to A Menace to Sobriety
Friend of mine suggested this
Pels: Young and WCJ
76ers: Ingram
Magic: CJ+1 FRP (from NOP)
Hawks: Jonathan Isaac+3 FRP (2 from Philly, 1 from NOP)
I think the Hawks will want more
Pels: Young and WCJ
76ers: Ingram
Magic: CJ+1 FRP (from NOP)
Hawks: Jonathan Isaac+3 FRP (2 from Philly, 1 from NOP)
I think the Hawks will want more
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:00 am
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Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:59 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
Not the way you think he does.
Zion needs someone to get the ball in his hands in ideal situations. Same as BI.
Zion can be the same creator and assist guy in that manner. He doesn't need to be the one slowly taking the ball up the court and initiating everythign.
Exactly. Plus could his body even handle it?? Every time we've tried to lean into point Zion for long stretches of a season he's gotten hurt.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:00 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Friend of mine suggested this
Pels: Young and WCJ
76ers: Ingram
Magic: CJ+1 FRP (from NOP)
Hawks: Jonathan Isaac+3 FRP (2 from Philly, 1 from NOP)
Hawks are gonna want more.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I'm comparing the role they envisioned him performing with Murray. CJ showed this year how it's done. I'm not comparing the players.
You are comparing their roles they envisioned?
If that’s the case, you are saying Murray is their Zion and Trae should defer to him. CJs role worked this year because he played his more natural spot of being an off ball shooter. CJ and Trae are not the same player so no they shoujd not be playing the same role. Same for BI, another disaster when he’s asked to initiate and run the offense.
That’s not Traes game. You blind if you don’t see this.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:03 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:04 am to Townedrunkard
quote:
We have proof of what Trae can do in the playoffs running the show.
Yes, and it doesn't work over the total sample of his time in ATL.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Otherwise he's around the 30-40 range.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Then his team will get the same results we've seen lately from ATL
Yup you are right because Atlanta has a Zion and the best D wing in the league and another sharp shooting 3&D wing on their roster. What Atl has on their roster is another pg that needs the ball in his hands to be effective….
Definitely getting the same results….
Think it’s time to silently bow out and take the L then double down with the stupidity you posting.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:08 am to duyp
quote:He's nowhere near the level of Trae Young, it's not close.
I’m not going to do BI + 3 first round picks for Trae. That’s just crazy. People forget that BI is still a top 10 SF in the league
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:10 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Past 3 seasons ranking would have trae top 15-20 easily.
Naw
Jokic
Luka
Giannis
SGA
Tatum
Embiid
AD
Lebron
Steph
Durant
Brunson
Booker
Kawhi
DMitch
Jimmy Butler
Paul George
Bam
Dame
That's 18 that shouldn't lead to too much argument. Then you have this group:
Haliburton
Kyrie
Fox
Zion
Jamal Murray
Jaylen Brown
Ant Edwards
Sabonis
Lauri
Ja
Maxey
KAT
Siakam
Rudy
I'm not saying all of them are clearly better over the last 3 years, but many have arguments that don't need to be made too loudly.
He's easily outside of the top 25
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:13 am to Townedrunkard
quote:
If that’s the case, you are saying Murray is their Zion and Trae should defer to him. C
If Trae bought in, I think ATL would have done a lot better the past 2 years
I doubt they would be blowing it up.
quote:
CJs role worked this year because he played his more natural spot of being an off ball shooter.
Trae needs to ease more into this
quote:
Same for BI, another disaster when he’s asked to initiate and run the offense.
Trae is BI on steroids
quote:
That’s not Traes game
His game doesn't work. That is the whole issue.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
SAS says Phoenix wants to trade Durant, all the talk of them not is posturing.
Ingram, Green and Sengun to Suns
Durant to Rockets
Trae and JSJ to Pels
Whitmore Dyson and a shitload of picks to Hawks including #3 and Hawks own back
Murray to Spurs
Make it fricking happen Griff, Stone and whoever else, get some god damn balls between your legs
Ingram, Green and Sengun to Suns
Durant to Rockets
Trae and JSJ to Pels
Whitmore Dyson and a shitload of picks to Hawks including #3 and Hawks own back
Murray to Spurs
Make it fricking happen Griff, Stone and whoever else, get some god damn balls between your legs
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:14 am to shel311
I just posted a list based on the past 3 years. If we're looking more at now, the 'for sure better' list gets at least 4 larger (Ant, Haliburton, Wemby, and Zion) and that's 22.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:15 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:15 am to Soggymoss
quote:
SAS says Phoenix wants to trade Durant, all the talk of them not is posturing.
It makes sense. They can't win as constructed and Durant may lose value after this year. If they can do a deal with HOU and get Sengun back, they can still be OK and may not run off Booker.
Also, Durant may have worn out his welcome already and Booker may want him gone
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Whoever trades for Durant loses the trade.
He's old as frick. Teams will never learn.
I truly hope the Rockets trade away their young talent for Durant so they can win 45 games and lose in the first round and then fall off a cliff next year when Durant does.
He's old as frick. Teams will never learn.
I truly hope the Rockets trade away their young talent for Durant so they can win 45 games and lose in the first round and then fall off a cliff next year when Durant does.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:22 am to shel311
quote:
He's nowhere near the level of Trae Young, it's not close.
I agree he's not near Trae, but BI's contract situation plays a big role here.
BI with 1 year left and not signing an extension woudl require us to trade probably 4 firsts and a young player to get Trae.
BI signing an extension with the team he's being traded to is worth a lot more, and then maybe it's just 2 firsts to swap him for Trae. 2 or 3, who gives a shite. we have plenty and don't need them.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
I’m starting to warm up to the idea of Trae and Zion in the pick n roll with Trey at the wing and Herb cutting or at the other wing. I guess Herb, Trey, and possibly a defensive first C can make up for Trae’s inability on defense. Hopefully, we would keep Jose and Dyson’s defense and Hawk and CJ’s shooting off the bench.
The big question is if we are going to trade for him or not.
The big question is if we are going to trade for him or not.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
His game doesn't work. That is the whole issue.
His game works just fine with the right supporting cast.
His game is no different than Brunson's, and Brunson doesn't have Zion, but they are just surrounding him with elite 3&D players.
The Hawks have a terrible supporting cast, especially defensively.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Jokic
Luka
Giannis
SGA
Tatum
Embiid
AD
Lebron
Steph
Durant Not better anymore
Brunson
Booker
Kawhi
DMitch
Jimmy Butler
Paul George
Bam
Dame
No to those guys being better.
That's 18 that shouldn't lead to too much argument. Then you have this group:
Haliburton
Kyrie
Fox About even.
Zion
Jamal Murray
About even
Jaylen Brown
Ant Edwards
Sabonis Not better.
Lauri Not better
Ja About even
Maxey About even
KAT
Siakam
RudyNot better
[/quote]
I think he's right around 25. BI isn't in my top 60
Luka
Giannis
SGA
Tatum
Embiid
AD
Lebron
Steph
Durant Not better anymore
Brunson
Booker
Kawhi
DMitch
Jimmy Butler
Paul George
Bam
Dame
No to those guys being better.
That's 18 that shouldn't lead to too much argument. Then you have this group:
Haliburton
Kyrie
Fox About even.
Zion
Jamal Murray
About even
Jaylen Brown
Ant Edwards
Sabonis Not better.
Lauri Not better
Ja About even
Maxey About even
KAT
Siakam
RudyNot better
[/quote]
I think he's right around 25. BI isn't in my top 60
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:29 am to ghost2most
quote:
Durant Not better anymore
The frick?
quote:
BI isn't in my top 60
Then you're thinking emotionally
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:30 am to Soggymoss
quote:You're living in NBA2K now.
I would call it in immediately
Call up Trajan and send CJ for Ivey and a S&T of Wiseman (4/35) with 2 2nds, flip those two seconds to Brooklyn for a S&T of Claxton (4/80). Bring Naji back using his bird rights. Bring Zeller back telling him he is our screen setting teacher. Sign Karlo to two way to train with team. Use MLE to get the best player you can for approximately 8 million.
Trae/Ivey/Jose
Herb/Hawk/Ryan
Trey/Dyson/MLE
Zion/Naji/EJ
Claxton/Wiseman/Zeller/Karlo
That’s a full complete team that’s still under the tax.
Picks to Hawks would be #21, both 2025 picks, both 2027 picks with lottery protection on Bucks pick. Swaps in 26 and 28. If it doesn’t work worst case scenario you still have control of your own picks left starting in 29, so you have 4 years to tinker and make it work together
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