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re: Skip Bayless says that he has “no sympathy” for Dak Prescott’s struggles with depression
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:00 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:00 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Clinical Persistent Depressive Order, ADD, Generalized anxiety disorder and insomnia here.
3 different family members decided to learn what buckshot tastes like.
This one is 100% true:
Right before I started getting a handle on things, I was at my daughter's pre-k graduation and all I could think about was going to my truck and spraying cherry pie all over my windshield. Obviously didn't do it, but between that and my wife threatening to leave, I got help.
What a lot of people don't realize is that mental illness is a badge of shame. I feel broken every day of my life. Even with meds it never goes away, just gets better or more manageable. Dak speaking out is huge for mentally ill people because one of the biggest weights it brings is loneliness- i know I generally feel alone, even when with my family or friends. As a kid, if Troy Aikman or Brett Favre would have spoken out, I may have gotten help earlier.
Skip is ignorant, but he should not be fired for having an opinion. He needs perspective, not a pink slip. He should have a sit down with Dak and listen instead of always trying to say the controversial thing to get ratings. He probably went too far this time, but who knows. Unless it turns racial (which I'm sure it will) he probably keeps his job.
ETA: Hey downvoters, congrats on being as ignorant as Skip. Hope one of your family members never blows their head off. Cheers.
3 different family members decided to learn what buckshot tastes like.
This one is 100% true:
Right before I started getting a handle on things, I was at my daughter's pre-k graduation and all I could think about was going to my truck and spraying cherry pie all over my windshield. Obviously didn't do it, but between that and my wife threatening to leave, I got help.
What a lot of people don't realize is that mental illness is a badge of shame. I feel broken every day of my life. Even with meds it never goes away, just gets better or more manageable. Dak speaking out is huge for mentally ill people because one of the biggest weights it brings is loneliness- i know I generally feel alone, even when with my family or friends. As a kid, if Troy Aikman or Brett Favre would have spoken out, I may have gotten help earlier.
Skip is ignorant, but he should not be fired for having an opinion. He needs perspective, not a pink slip. He should have a sit down with Dak and listen instead of always trying to say the controversial thing to get ratings. He probably went too far this time, but who knows. Unless it turns racial (which I'm sure it will) he probably keeps his job.
ETA: Hey downvoters, congrats on being as ignorant as Skip. Hope one of your family members never blows their head off. Cheers.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 8:16 am
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:02 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Is Dak going through depression or grieving ? It sounds more like grief than actual depression
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:06 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Damn this place has gotten soft
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:17 am to lsupride87
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Seems like he was making the point depression is real, but it can’t be used as a crutch if you are in a postition of leadership. It’s harsh, but it’s true.
That's definitely what he was trying to say.
I suspect the OP understands this and actually disagrees with it.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:18 am to kciDAtaE
quote:Meh. There's soft and there's soft.
Damn this place has gotten soft
Mental health is a big problem in this country that would improve significantly if people stopped labeling it as "being soft."
With that being said, maybe Skip should have worded it better but I don't think I disagree with what he's trying to say. Especially if you watch the whole segment.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:30 am to castorinho
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With that being said, maybe Skip should have worded it better but I don't think I disagree with what he's trying to say. Especially if you watch the whole segment.
Right. The point is, no matter how real his mental issues are, he's trying to become a franchise QB and be paid as a franchise QB. Either he can do that with his issues, or he cannot.
People keep saying that these mental health issues are real. I think that's the point. His mental issues could very be the reason not to invest in him. It makes no sense to use it to excuse any shortcoming in his performance or preparation.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:32 am to castorinho
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Meh. There's soft and there's soft.
This place getting all upset that a sports journalist suggested a player does not show leadership because he is depressed is “soft” no matter how you look at it...but I guess it’s typical for 2020. Everybody getting upset about something someone said. Never expected to get here.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 9:21 am to kciDAtaE
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Everybody getting upset about something someone said. Never expected to get here
I actually have mental illness and don't believe skip should be fired. Maybe gain some perspective yeah, but I don't think he shouldnt be able to make a living anymore.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 10:37 am to Mr. Hangover
quote:Freaking amazing IMO.
How is it
Many others don't hold the same opinion though, but I love it. Much, much better than the last 2 versions.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 10:42 am to lsupride87
quote:Oh look someone who doesn’t have any idea what depression is like.
Those spots you either deal with it, or find something else and get your personal life straight.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 11:02 am to moneyg
quote:Very well said
Right. The point is, no matter how real his mental issues are, he's trying to become a franchise QB and be paid as a franchise QB. Either he can do that with his issues, or he cannot.
People keep saying that these mental health issues are real. I think that's the point. His mental issues could very be the reason not to invest in him. It makes no sense to use it to excuse any shortcoming in his performance or preparation.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 11:11 am to shel311
Do they have Augusta as a playable course?
Absolutely blows my mind (even though it shouldn’t) that EA didn’t put Augusta in their last two versions of the game. That’d be like The Show not having Wrigley Field or Yankee Stadium
Absolutely blows my mind (even though it shouldn’t) that EA didn’t put Augusta in their last two versions of the game. That’d be like The Show not having Wrigley Field or Yankee Stadium
Posted on 9/11/20 at 11:28 am to lsupride87
Not the same situation obviously, but that example reminds me of Royce Young. Guy clearly had mental issues and needed help. It’s important he received that, but it also can give teams pause when investing in him.
Most depression is very different than that, and can be treated well, but I can understand it giving some teams a little pause (if that’s what your point is).
Most depression is very different than that, and can be treated well, but I can understand it giving some teams a little pause (if that’s what your point is).
Posted on 9/11/20 at 11:43 am to lsupride87
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:00 pm to dawgfan24348
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Money didn't help Robin Williams, Kurt Cobain, Chester Bennington, or Chris Cornell.
Bad example. Those are all dual diagnosis addicts in addition to depression.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:12 pm to kciDAtaE
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Damn this place has gotten soft
For saying it’s not cool to call out someone for talking about depression? So Dak should have just held it all in and ignored it?
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 1:17 pm to moneyg
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That's definitely what he was trying to say.
I suspect the OP understands this and actually disagrees with it.
Skip could have found a way to say this way better, then. Because the way it came across made it sound like Skip thought Dak showed weakness for opening up about his struggles. Also, Dak never claimed to be using it as a crutch. Sometimes, though, even people in positions of power or authority have struggles that they can’t always just ignore or switch off. That doesn’t mean the person should be shamed or told they can no longer hold that position. Have some understanding and sympathy as the person works through what they are dealing with.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 2:57 pm to lsupride87
quote:I agree that's what Bayless was saying, but disagree that his view is correct. For all we know, the greatest thing Dak could ever do as "lead of America's team" would be to share this publicly.
Seems like he was making the point depression is real, but it can’t be used as a crutch if you are in a postition of leadership. It’s harsh, but it’s true. Those spots you either deal with it, or find something else and get your personal life straight.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 4:30 pm to Mr. Hangover
quote:There are some real official courses, Augusta is not 1 of them.
Do they have Augusta as a playable course?
That being said, people can create courses, many create really solid entirely fictional courses. I have read that there is a perfect Augusta replica, to the tee. I haven't tried it yet though.
quote:I don't know the reasons but assume it's because Augusta wouldn't give them the rights to do so.
Absolutely blows my mind (even though it shouldn’t) that EA didn’t put Augusta in their last two versions of the game. That’d be like The Show not having Wrigley Field or Yankee Stadium
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 9/11/20 at 4:48 pm to lsupride87
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depression is real, but it can’t be used as a crutch if you are in a postition of leadership.
Yeah, ESPN/Bayless don't get to say this and then pontificate endlessly about how oppressed black people are and how this oppression is so devastating to their community and opportunities, equality, equity, BLM, OMB, white people suck, blah, blah, blah.
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