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danfraz
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
Magic Johnson wears Ben Simmons pajamas


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tubucoco
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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Offensively he's Blake Griffin who isn't living in the paint.
Much better ball handler and passer than Griffin ever will be. Griffin's game is more physical than Simmons, Griffin likes to post up and bang people and to go over them or draw fouls when he's not taking jumpers. Simmons great ball handling for someone that size allows him to take the bigger guys that are guarding him off the dribble and lose them for easy dunks or assists if someone slides over to intercept him.

But I agree with sunnydaze in that he is like Lebron more than a Magic Johnson. He is built like Lebron was just 2 inches taller and will get bigger body wise as he matures more, he's athletic like Lebron and a great ball handler and passer like Lebron is. He just isn't all around like Lebron is when it comes to playing defense and having a jump shot from the outside.
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RedTigerRulz
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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defense and having a jump shot from the outside.



Yea these two things are kinda important when making a case for greatness.
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SammyTiger
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
You’re right and I meant to say is that he’s Blake Griffin if Griffin was a ball handler and facilitator.

I think If Simmons didn’t have he handles he does he could easily work the post and be a 20/10 player right now.

But he does a lot more and is a 16/8/8


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lsupride87
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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different era to compare especially on the defensive end
I hope you are implying that 80s defense was horrific.


Because it absolutely was. It was literally stand around and watch defense


LSU82BILL
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Member since Sep 2006
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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EVERY NBA coach wants his team to shoot a dunk shot ON EVERY ATTEMPT HIS TEAM TAKES FROM THE FIELD!!! You are making the case for how awsome Ben is when EVERYBODY knows he can't shoot outside of the paint, and yet he is still WRECKING the association.


Hey moron,.....there is a damn good reason that, despite his Simmons being #12 minutes played that he is #182 in the league in field goal attempts per 36 minutes.


tigahlovah
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
Simmons is currently above avg on defense (and will get better), and is ABSOLUTELY WRECKING the league with no shot outside of the paint. You have to believe he will expand his shot out to 15 feet, and at that point we will be seeing a player like no other.


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Fun Bunch
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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I hope you are implying that 80s defense was horrific.


Because it absolutely was. It was literally stand around and watch defense




I love the downvote you got even though you are right. Outside of the Pistons, 80s Defense was objectively terrible. That is a fact and is backed up by almost every metric.

It was a TOUGHER game in some ways based on how hard you could foul, but the Defense was not good.

The 90s Defense drastically improved, so much so they had to change the rules (for the better).


SammyTiger
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
And he’s top 50 in points despite that.

He is smart enough to not take shots he can’t make and he takes smog shots to score a very respectable amount.


ThePTExperience1969
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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The 90s Defense drastically improved, so much so they had to change the rules (for the better).


Remember looking up those late 90s Bulls teams that included Rodman and their opponents' averages were like 95-96 PPG, simply insane, just so suffocating


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LSU82BILL
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Member since Sep 2006
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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And he’s top 50 in points despite that.


Being top 50 in points when you are #12 in total minutes and a primary ball handler isn't exactly an accomplishment. He's #138 in the NBA points per 36 minutes good for 5th on his own team. I'll give you that he's smart enough not to take shots he can't make.


tigahlovah
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
And you don't think he is DOMINATING the game in other ways while on the floor (dishing, boarding, stealing, and playing above avg defense)? This kid has played 81 NBA games and has done things in that initial year that only the great Oscar Robertson has- nope, not even Magic. I also have a feeling he will get better over the next few yrs. Somebody tell Coach Wade to use this in recruiting.


BR Tiger
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Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
He fact that he is 5th in his team in pts per 36 minutes tells me he is facilitating scoring by his teammates. In other words, he’s doing his job, and doing it very well.


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Dubaitiger
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Member since Nov 2005
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
I am a Ben Simmons supporter ever since I saw his high school film. Probably the best ever the way he handled the ball, passed the rock, and even he had some amazing shots on the highlight tape.

Jones screwed his 1 year to do some damage yet he still had amazing stats.

I called it that he was better than Magic and Jorden in high school and his tape was as good as Lebron.

Well after a year in the NBA (without a jump shot) he is wrecking the league. He and only Oscar Robinson had more triple doubles and whatever else. Just he and Oscar- Bad Ass!

As a 6-10 point guard... Did Johnny Jones not see his high school film? The NBA sure did


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TigerDM
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Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
558 posts

re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
Simmons is a really good player, but I would never consider him close to the greatest. While he makes the players around him better, he is very dependent on the other players. A truly great player makes the others around him better, but has the ability to take over a game if needed.

Don't get me wrong, there isn't a single team that wouldn't want Ben Simmons and I'm sure the other players love to play with him as he is a pass first player, who sets them up with good looks at the basket.


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LSU82BILL
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Member since Sep 2006
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
This kid has played 81 NBA games and has done things in that initial year that only the great Oscar Robertson has- nope, not even Magic.

Simmons averaged .4 rebounds and .9 assists more than Magic did as a rookie. Wow! He averaged 15.6 PPG compared to 18.0 PPG for Magic. Magic was an NBA All-Star and NBA Finals MVP as a rookie. Simmons didn't even make the All Star team. Magic started at CENTER in placed of Kareem in the Finals clincher, played 47 minutes and dropped 42 on Philly in the Spectrum, grabbed 15 rebounds and dished out 7 assists. Simmons may become a HOFer but saying he has done things that "not even Magic" did as a rookie is flat out stupid.


cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
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re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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Simmons averaged .4 rebounds and .9 assists more than Magic did as a rookie. Wow! He averaged 15.6 PPG compared to 18.0 PPG for Magic. Magic was an NBA All-Star and NBA Finals MVP as a rookie. Simmons didn't even make the All Star team. Magic started at CENTER in placed of Kareem in the Finals clincher, played 47 minutes and dropped 42 on Philly in the Spectrum, grabbed 15 rebounds and dished out 7 assists. Simmons may become a HOFer but saying he has done things that "not even Magic" did as a rookie is flat out stupid.



You bring up some good points. And I agree with most of it. However, he did beat Magic in 2 statistical categories, and you can't deny that. Not to mention Ben is 10x better at taking it to the rim and dunking.

Without question, he should have made the all star game. Any player averaging a triple double should make it. And will be rookie of the year.

And in Ben's defense, this is his first year playing the point and will certainly get better. He was poorly coached in college and played out of position, whereas Magic played in his position and was well coached in college. Giving him a little bit more time and experience playing the point.

I also wonder was Magic surrounded by better players? I mean, Pilli's team is ok, but I sure don't see any legends out there.


LSU82BILL
LSU Fan
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
6684 posts

re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
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Not to mention Ben is 10x better at taking it to the rim and dunking.



Great. But this isn't a quality I'm necessarily looking for in a PG.

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Without question, he should have made the all star game.


Magic was the best guard in the NBA as a rookie. Would you take Simmons over Harden, Westbrook, Curry, Kyrie or Lillard. Not me.

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And in Ben's defense, this is his first year playing the point and will certainly get better.


I have no problem with the way he moves the ball up the court, passes or penetrates. But this isn't his first year shooting J's. The kid has no perimeter game.


sweetwaterbilly
South Alabama Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2017
6971 posts

re: Ben Simmons is looking like Magic Johnson
I’m not arguing Ben’s skills at all.. he’s a great player already. But he’d be so much easier to cheer for if he wasn’t such a dick.


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