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Non-GMO tomato plants

Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:21 pm
Posted by BlueChips
Member since Aug 2016
82 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:21 pm
Looking to grow a few plants this year - are the plants that the HDs and Lowes sell GMO? Anyone know where to find non-GMO plants if so?
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
479 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:24 pm to
There are no gmo tomato plants.

I'm guessing you mean hybrid plants. Keep looking because there are plenty heirloom plants available the times I've looked.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5285 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:27 pm to
As I recall HD and Lowes sell Bonnie vegetable plants and according to Bonnie’s website all their vegetable transplants are produced from non-GMO seed.
Posted by BlueChips
Member since Aug 2016
82 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:31 pm to
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There are no gmo tomato plants.

I didn't know this. I figured everything that was mass produced and sold in the big box/grocery was GMO except specifically stated otherwise. That's for informing me. I'm new to this so forgive my ignorance
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
479 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:37 pm to
There really aren't very many gmo crops out there. It's mainly commodity crops like corn, soybean, cotton, canola, & sugar beet. Then there's stuff like papaya, some potatoes, some apples, summer squash and alfalfa.

The summer squash one is rarely used because it's stupid expensive and only provides minimal disease resistance.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30735 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 7:59 pm to
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Then there's stuff like papaya,


Yeah, without the GMO papaya, you probably would not be able to get any at a reasonable price, if at all.

Posted by TheFitfulFire
Houma
Member since Jan 2017
145 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:48 pm to
By definition, any living thing that has been manipulated by man in any fashion (including selective breeding) is a Genetically Modified Organism. By definition, there isn't a plant or animal that humans consume that is not a GMO unless it is wild, but even then there are exceptions.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:51 pm to
^^^ what he said
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20889 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:06 pm to
Look to see if the label says determinant or indeterminate. Determinant plants will only produce a set number of fruit.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38781 posts
Posted on 3/28/22 at 9:28 pm to
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As I recall HD and Lowes sell Bonnie vegetable plants 


Yea, the Bonnie stuff is even organic
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 11:11 pm to
The non-GMO guys are almost as bad as the vegans.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 6:30 am to
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By definition, there isn't a plant or animal that humans consume that is not a GMO


There’s also no evidence that GMO food is harmful to humans in any way.

OP, you’ll have several choices when looking through the tomato plants at the box stores. They will either be hybrid or heirloom, and determinate vs indeterminate.

- A hybrid is created when plant breeders intentionally cross-pollinate two different varieties of a plant, with the outcome being an offspring, or hybrid that contains the best traits of each of the parents.

- Heirlooms are open pollinated and have stable genetics. The seeds from the fruits produced will produce the same plant as the parent plant. If you want to save seeds, you’ll want to grow heirlooms.

- Determinate varieties grow to a fixed mature size and then stop producing. Typically called bush type.

- Indeterminate varieties will continue to grow and produce throughout the growing season. They are called vining type.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:15 am to
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The non-GMO guys are almost as bad as the vegans.
Worse.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8711 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:15 pm to
Determinants are preferred by some as you get a huge amount of fruit and can pressure can it all at once. Also there's less time for fungi to get in and spoil production.

If you are serious about un-messed with genetics, go to Mexico and seek out the wild plants that the 'modern' tomato comes from. Plan to plant a lot of them for a modest yield.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Member since Jun 2011
28673 posts
Posted on 3/29/22 at 7:27 pm to
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Worse.



Nah but only because the vegans also tend to be non-gmo
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:22 am to
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There’s also no evidence that GMO food is harmful to humans in any way.


That is patently false. There are tons of studies around the world providing "evidence." If you want to say it isn't "proven," that would probably be acceptable.

The issues come when you take selective breeding GMO food and use that to cover for GMO food that was genetically altered by splicing genes. But even then, selective breeding has been very damaging to food. Just read the book on the history of wheat and why wheat from places like Italy is so much safer than wheat grown in the USA. Even people with celiac can eat Italian wheat with no issues most of the time.

It literally takes 5 minutes to search for thousands of peer reviewed studies and experiments showing detrimental impacts of gene splicing food.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 9:23 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 10:00 am to
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That is patently false.
It absolutely is not.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 11:28 am to
Friends dad is growing ancient grains and can’t grow enough. He started growing because his wife has celiacs.

It’s very interesting how some guts can digest ancient grains easily and cannot digest the newer GMO ones.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81736 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:12 pm to
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It’s very interesting how some guts can digest ancient grains easily
Because these were always gluten free.

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and cannot digest the newer GMO ones.
Because these have gluten and it's got nothing to do with GMO.
Posted by Tigerroc
Member since Jun 2017
259 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:38 pm to
I buy my heirloom garden vegetable seeds from Amish. My kids learned in college classes GMO vegetables have not been around long enough to see long term affects of eating this stuff. Especially GMO corn stuff that they put in all food: high fructose corn syrup,
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