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re: Atrazine for clovers

Posted by CrawDude on 2/25/26 at 11:03 am to
A university recommended lawn fertilization program for your lawn grass type (there are differences in recommended nitrogen application rates and application frequency) should provide you adequate lawn nitrogen input.

I would caution you not to use excessive nitrogen application on the lawn to “control” clover or other weeds that thrive under nitrogen deficient conditions otherwise you’ll be back on this board asking how to control lawn diseases and other lawn health issues.

re: Azalea Spray

Posted by CrawDude on 2/25/26 at 9:23 am to
One of the most effective and convenient products I use is an imidacloprid (insecticide) drench. You mix & pour the product at the base of the shrub, it’s uptaken by the roots and distributed systemically throughout the shrub. Offers pretty much season control of the most harmful azalea insects. As a bonus some companies, Fertilome and Bonide come to mind, sell a imidacloprid drench product that also contains a systemic fungicide, usually referred as 2 in 1 product.

Most retail garden centers, and perhaps the big box stores (HD or Lowe’s) carry those products. I prefer these products to spraying for time and convenience.

As mentioned, also fertilize with a general purpose acidic shrub fertilizer- the next 2 or 3 weeks, would be a good time to apply. Fertilome has a granular azalea fertlizer that contains imidachloprid insecticide - you might consider that product. A cup or 2 of elemental sulfur spread around the root zone of each azalea will help increase soil acidity (reduce soil pH) if you have non-acidic soil.

re: Atrazine for clovers

Posted by CrawDude on 2/24/26 at 6:50 pm to
Atrazine is a systemic herbicide (works slow), as opposed to a contact herbicide (works quick). Systemics are absorbed and translocated through the vascular system and to the roots - takes time. Bottom line, with the somewhat cool weather, could take 2 to 3 weeks to show good results. Growth of clover should cease in a week or so, but death takes longer. Don’t be in rush to re-spray.

BTW, many of the good post-emergent herbicides recommended on this board are systemic.

re: Pre emergent

Posted by CrawDude on 2/24/26 at 11:52 am to
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Just laid zoysia about 3 weeks ago, post cold snap. Coming out of dormancy, no issues there. What would you recommend for a fertilizer/weed schedule over say the next 6 months?

Not a zoysia “expert”, I’ll defer to other on the board in that regards, particularly ronk who is a professional and does this for a living but I’ll make these comments.

1. Newly laid sod - no pre-emergent herbicide until the sod-lawn becomes established, usually 4-6 months, and that information will be clearly stated on any pre-emergent herbicide label, so always read the label.

2. If needed, you will be able to use post-emergent herbicides fairly soon, after the sod is rooted in, say a couple months, but again read the herbicide label. Avoid Weed & Feed products (herbicides & fertilizer mixed together) - they are convenience products- best to implement weed control & fertilization as two separate activities.

3. Fertilization - most sod comes pre-fertilized, and believe Zoysia requires less nitrogen fertllizer than St Augustine or Bermudagrass. 1/2 to 1 pound of Nitrogen (N) “slow release” lawn fertilizer per 1000 sq ft per application, perhaps starting mid-April, and second application 3-4 months later - mid July. Do not exceed 2 lbs of N per 1000 soft per year (growing season). The application rate might be dependent on the Zoysia cultivar you have - I’ll defer to others on this.

4. As I read from others a reel mower is likely best for Zoysia? But most important, cut it at the appropriate height for grass health, 1 to 2 inches depending on the cultivar, but again it’s cultivar dependent so you might want to share that info, or even start a new thread. You’ll get many good recommendations/suggestions from those with Zoysia lawns.

Zoysiagrass - LSU AgCenter
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Believe the Weathering has a better parts warranty.

Most HVAC manufacturers provide a 10 year parts warranty (occasionally 12 years on some of their higher end models) when the warranty is registered with the HVAC manufacturer. Usually the installing company will register the warranty for you and send you the paperwork but you need to ask. Otherwise, as the another poster mentioned, if not registered with the manufacturer the parts warranty defaults to 5 years (except in CA & Canada).

Labor warranty by the installer, 1 or 2 years is most common. Some offer a 10 year labor warranty but that going to be built into the price structure - that is, you are going to pay more.

As often stated on here, and on professional HVAC forums that I follow, the quality and attention to detail by the HVAC installing company is more important than the name (manufacturer) of the equipment.
Bryant is a Carrier product, and WeatherKing a Rheem product. Both are comparable in performance and reliability assuming a proper install.

Do both units have the same 10-year parts warranty provided by the manufacturer and labor warranty by the installing company? If different, consider the unit with the better warranty.

Pretty good pricing…..

re: Pre emergent

Posted by CrawDude on 2/22/26 at 11:14 am to
No - most late winter-spring weed seeds have not germinated yet, but best to apply and water in ASAP.
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Granular, right. No need to water in liquid (generic prodiamine “old yeller” as I call it).

Both granular and liquid (spray) pre-emergents need to be watered in - the active ingredient needs to be moved to the soil surface where the weed seeds are located to “kill” the weed seed embryos when they germinate. Even with a spray formulation of pre-emergent most-much of the compound will adhere to the grass blades and not make contact with the soil unless watered in. This is stated on the herbicide label - unfortunately you have to read all the “fine print”. :lol:

Prodiamine 65WDG Label - read the last paragraph, page 7

re: Pre-emergent in South Louisiana

Posted by CrawDude on 2/21/26 at 1:09 pm to
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would it be to late to do it this coming week?

It’s not too late to apply pre-emergent herbicide. The sooner the better, but it must be watered in (rain or sprinklers) soon after.
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I like to lay down some prodiamine spray on Vday in Lafayette as it tends to nail as a postemergent, some left over winter weeds and sticker weed I missed earlier,

?? Did you mis-word this? Prodiamine is a pre-emergent, it has no post-emergent efficacy on winter weeds.

re: Delete

Posted by CrawDude on 2/20/26 at 12:54 pm to
Atrazine, Trimec, Fertilome Weed Free Zone, MSM Turf, Celsius, …..your choice…. Not too early, and not too late ….treat-control weeds when present…..
Well spray would provide you better control & accuracy along the edge of landscape beds, but in the lawn proper, your choice-preference. I would spray up to the border of the landscape bed unless you have shrubs planted close to the border, in which case I’d back away a bit. Read the product label.

re: Persimmon help/advice

Posted by CrawDude on 2/18/26 at 11:25 am to
I have three Asian persimmons cultivars Fuyu, Saijo and Maejawa-Jiro. Fuyu is very popular and can be found just about anywhere.

The two you mentioned are grafted cultivars on American persimmon rootstock, so they do not need a second cultivar for cross pollination - just like citrus.

The two varieties you mentioned I gather are astringent varieties, meaning they have to be soft-ripe before you can eat the fruit. Non-astringent cultivars, like Fuyu, you can eat when ripe, both hard or soft.

Though the best time to plant trees is in the Deep South is Nov-March, It would be best to plant ASAP, but if they are potted plants (not bare root) you can plant them year round though you have less margin for error if you plant them during summer (more stress on the plant).
Interesting. As I suspected, according to LA Dept of Agriculture & Forestry (LDAF) website Fertilome Weed Free Zone (manufactured by Voluntary Purchasing Groups, Inc; VPG, Inc) is only a restricted use pesticide (RUP) in Louisiana when sold in containers exceeding 1 quart in size. Container size, or volume quantity, purchase restrictions is not uncommon for a number of commonly used lawn-household pesticides.

Anyway, though DoYourOwn is technically not wrong, they could sell containers of Fertilome WFZ in Louisiana, 1 quart or smaller, to the general public if they chose to do so.

That said, you can buy Fertllome Weed Free Zone at most retail Garden Centers or Hardware Stores in container sizes of 1 quart or smaller in LA.

If you are interested, the 2025 RUPs for LA are in this 38 page file, page 36 for the Weed Free Zone restriction. I pulled this from the LDAF web site.

LDAF RUP List - 2025

re: Bahia in Centipede

Posted by CrawDude on 2/14/26 at 12:26 pm to
MSM Turf (methsulfuron methyl) or sethoxydim. But sure, if you have a large areas of bahiagrass you can use glyphosate, but your job to minimize overspray on the centipede.

I live in an area that was once dairy pasture so lot of bahiagrass. Centipede lawn. I eliminated with MSM Turf - it took a couple years.

Bahiagrass - LSU Ag Center
You can purchases Rudd (=Rheem) online through AC wholesalers LINK. No experience with them but they provide pricing so at least you can compare to other suggestions. You’ll need to decide if you want to use R454B refrigerant (Rudd, etc, and just about all other major manufacturers) or R-32, the Daikan line…..Goodman, Amana, Daikan) for down the road when the evaporator coil leaks….lol. Cost & availability of R-454B was pretty problematic a while back compared to R-32, May have settled down now.

If you installed a mini-split for the LR, you should look to downsize the new unit, via manual J calculation You are a ME, piece of cake for you…..lol. Decent manual J, manual S, on-line calculator, LoadCalc, which I used to verily proper cooling & heating equipment sizing prior to my HVAC change out a few years ago. LINK
Gallery (Isoxaben) or Dimension (dithiopyr) as pre-emergents. Just remember pre-emergents need to be applied and watered in before the weed seeds germinate - usually about now (mid-Feb) in the Deep South - certainly south AL ; north AL late Feb-mid-March. Once weed seeds germinate you’ll still need post-emergent herbicides.

re: Stocking a newly dug pond??

Posted by CrawDude on 2/12/26 at 9:20 am to
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I've got an older, established 8-10 acre pond that was drained after Katrina due to salvinia infestation. It has mostly been un managed in reference to fish. I would like to see if our fish population is healthy. Would that LSU link be who I should contact?

An established pond that size requiring a fish population assessment using electrofishing boat-gear to make the assessment would require an outside firm-consultant. A couple companies are mentioned in this thread that do this. A couple others owned by professional fisheries biologists based in Baton Rouge, but do work around the state, are Aquatic Solutions LLC (Mark McElroy; no website) and Louisiana Pond Management (Ken Rust, Google their website) - I have no idea of the cost but wouldn’t be cheap.

re: Speed Queen questions

Posted by CrawDude on 2/10/26 at 7:24 pm to
Here a short video on the major difference between the TC and TR series
FWIW, I have the TR5, it’s quiet and it cleans clothes. The control board needed to to be replaced last year, year 4, but labor & part covered under warranty.

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My question is, if I do split application, that is .415 for split app. or is it less since I use Specticle in fall?

Yes 0.415 “now” (Feb) - it’s efficacy will have by & large dissipated by May, 2nd application of 0.415 late April-May, it’s efficacy dissipated by August, and then the Specticle application in Fall.
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Would there be any negatives to applying Simazine? That's what I have on hand.

As a pre-emergent? Off the top of my head, I don’t see an issue if that’s what you have. Simazine is a better pre-emergent than post-emergent herbicide. Ronk, who is a professional in this field, favors using Simazine in the fall, likely b/c it’s very effective on annual bluegrass (Poa annua), using other pre-emergents in the late winter-early spring. If ronk enters the thread, I’m sure he’ll correct me….lol.

Here is the Simazine label, read the turf grass section and see what you think.

Simazine 4L Label