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re: Report: Zion Williamson's Family Members Unhappy, Want Pelicans Star on New Team

Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:53 am to
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14482 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:53 am to
Yes a reality check is what's needed.

Showing up out of shape while talking about how your mom is your dietitian and your step-dad is your trainer, shows you don't really have the level of commitment you need.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:59 am to
Medical condition forces Brandon Ingram to suddenly retire from basketball
Posted by irvchilichill1
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
720 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:52 am to
This is all bullshite. And its getting old that the NBA doesnt put an end or curtail the media from the clickbait speculation that is ruining fans commitment to their team bc they cant count on their stars to remain loyal, when the 1st hurdle or setback befells them.

If the Pels are trying to correct a wrong and right the ship, by firing Van Gundy, which is commendable bc of the money owed to him now and still paying Gentry, why the hell is it now that EVERYONE and dey momma wants to bash the Pels?

Carlisle just "resigned" from Dallas, due to Doncic, allegedly being unhappy. Sounds familiar? But, I bet today nobody will be saying the Dallas franchise will be locating in the next decade.

Im for player's empowerment but this shite is getting out of hand. A bunch of whiny babies who want to gang up like AAU ball and beat up on the small market teams who cant compete simply because of location and economics.

The next collective bargaining agreement needs to address the issue of how to ensure stars are spread out evenly amongst the teams and make it difficult, not impossible, for stars to just team up and guarantee a Conf Finals appearance, at least.

Also, the League needs to figure out how small market teams, who have done well scouting and drafting quality players, can keep their homegrown talent. OKC basically was penalized for drafting well when they had to get rid of Harden bc of luxury tax purposes. That scenario doesnt bode well for the Pels if all their youngsters pan out bc they will have to make tough choices as who to keep, trade or let walk.
So, having a warchest of assests and possibly drafting well from it eventually ends up a negative bc you cant sustain the core for many years.

Another thing, these agents and their influence over organizations by forcing their client's (players) to vocally be disgruntled and requests trades is another HUGE problem for the League.

All of this nonsense has become an extreme negative bc of LeBron and his Klutch Sports agency with Rich Paul. Again, Im all for what good it has done to allow other individuals, minorities specifically, to be included as legitimate options to the establishment, but Rich Paul is fricking it up for the next generation of those who would want the same. The Major sports leagues will figure out a way to limit the pool of viable candidates to represent player's in their respective leagues and the NBA is already trying to do so by implementing certain "requirements" such as agents needing a college degree and other restrictive measures which are a glaring attempt to keep the "Rich Paul's" out of the League's hair.

All this utilizing the media and forcing players to become malcontents so teams have no choice but to trade them to their destination of choice will be the deathnell of the NBA.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33162 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 9:04 am to
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All of this nonsense has become an extreme negative bc of LeBron and his Klutch Sports agency with Rich Paul.


Bingo. This is the problem. I have no doubt this being driven by someone in the NBA who wants Zion. It’s the way these reporters operate. It’s not a problem in any other league. The NBA just has weak arse leadership.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27321 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:18 am to
I wonder how good of a relationship zion and ingram have.

To me it seems like you have to move ingram.

I just don't know if they will ever work together. I almost feel like if you split ingram into a cj mccollum and a point guard you'd be way better off.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47814 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:12 pm to
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The team can’t keep a superstar happy to save there lives.




it's not the team, it's the city
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5744 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:24 pm to
Nowhere did the article say it was market. CP3 wanted to stay. Zion likes the market. Put winners around those guys they stay.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116320 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:30 pm to
frick off.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278714 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:56 pm to
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CP3 wanted to stay.


Pelicans fans are so goddamned delusional
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:32 pm to
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Pelicans fans are so goddamned delusional


You can find many articles about Chris Paul loving New Orleans. Even Anthony Davis loves New Orleans. But the organization? Not so much. However, Gayle has made improvements after AD left.

Winning cures everything. Kobe and Tim Duncan almost left their teams also.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:44 pm to
CP kept his place for a while and still came back every summer for his youth program for many years.

And I think enough interviews, articles, and players from that era have corroborated the stories enough at this point that it was ownership and the front office that killed the CP era and nothing else. Had we not tried to sell off Tyson for spare parts, refused to spend money on guys like Taushaun Prince(confirmed by DWest), and signaled to be more about pinching pennies than winning, that core probably sticks together for many years more.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278714 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:44 pm to
He demanded a trade & said he wouldn’t re sign. Not sure how that is interpreted as wanting to stay
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10476 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:50 pm to
He wanted to win. That regime clearly wasn't in tune with that line of thought when they blew up the core because shinn was so cash strapped. I don't blame Paul for that fallout. On top of that when they fired Scott, they replaced him with a walrus. That was an absolute joke.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5744 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:14 pm to
He demanded a trade AFTER all that ownership debacle. Not a single person blamed him either.

Different ownership that is ok with paying that team stays together.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:32 pm to
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"I was really a part of that city," Paul said. "I honestly can't say one negative thing about the city. If it were not for the city of New Orleans, I'm not who I am now. They just embrace you as family."
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278714 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:25 pm to
I think we are talking about different things. I don’t give a shite if he liked the city
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21206 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:30 pm to
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I don’t give a shite if he liked the city


That will weigh on his decision making a lot. Especially if the money is right.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111139 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:30 pm to
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I almost feel like if you split ingram into a cj mccollum and a point guard you'd be way better off.
Ingram for CJ/Dame, I like the way you think!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111139 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:30 pm to
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it's not the team, it's the city

So if the team was super successful and winning a ton, you think all these stars would still be doing everything they could to leave?
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
6273 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 8:56 pm to
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its not the team, it’s the city


holy shite that is really rich coming from a chalmette boi

Good Lord, that might be the least self aware post anyone has ever made on this board lol

Thanks for the laugh. That shite was GOOD LOL
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 8:57 pm
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