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re: Report: Zion Williamson's Family Members Unhappy, Want Pelicans Star on New Team
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:41 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:41 pm to Fun Bunch
I think Zion is generally mature beyond his years, but it’s tough not to be influenced by family. I even understand the JJ stuff to an extent. That was his vet, his Duke vet, “the brotherhood”. It’s similar to if you have a friend/mentor in the workplace, the company lies to him, and then does him a bit dirty. You are generally going to feel a bit sympathetic for your mentor/friend and perhaps worry that they also aren’t being 100% truthful to you.
These guys are human beings. It’s hard to tell them how to feel about business decisions, even if those decisions make sense. It doesn’t help that JJ lit fire to the whole situation. Considering what he was willing to say publicly, imagine the type of shite he was saying about the franchise behind closed doors.
These guys are human beings. It’s hard to tell them how to feel about business decisions, even if those decisions make sense. It doesn’t help that JJ lit fire to the whole situation. Considering what he was willing to say publicly, imagine the type of shite he was saying about the franchise behind closed doors.
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:41 pm to TigerinATL
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Because Griff is next in line for the guillotine? Or because Griff admitted in his presser that he's not good at picking coaches?
Griff's seat is hot. Both for performance issues and his lack of relationship with Zion and his family.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:52 pm to NolaTiger52
When you start a piece with, "multiple sources have told The Athletic that certain family members want Williamson on another team," I actually expected more insight than what was in the article.
However, I'm not dumb enough to dismiss it. We've been here too many times, and and it always comes to the same conclusion. Unless we go on some miracle Finals run, he's outa here. That might not be good enough.
We can't be delusional. Its right there. Two years into his deal, his "family" wants out.
However, I'm not dumb enough to dismiss it. We've been here too many times, and and it always comes to the same conclusion. Unless we go on some miracle Finals run, he's outa here. That might not be good enough.
We can't be delusional. Its right there. Two years into his deal, his "family" wants out.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:58 pm to eyeran
It's nothing new. You heard the same ole shite fr Paul with his brother, AD with his Dad, and now Zion with someone in the family. It doesn't change the focus. Win and everything goes silent.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:58 pm to supe12sta12z
That's why a lot of us on here having been harping on how crazy important this offseason is, even before all of this shite blew up.
We have to start winning. Now.
We have to start winning. Now.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:01 pm to supe12sta12z
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It's nothing new. You heard the same ole shite fr Paul with his brother, AD with his Dad, and now Zion with someone in the family. It doesn't change the focus. Win and everything goes silent.
It's not that simple. Sure become a title contender and he can't leave, but that's not possible in 2 years.
If the Pels play well in the regular season and get the 6/7 seed, but get smoked in the first round by a real contender, his parents aren't going away or changing their mind about their vision for Z.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:01 pm to eyeran
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We can't be delusional. Its right there. Two years into his deal, his "family" wants out.
2 wasted years. Missed most of his rookie year thanks to an over protective safety measures that he seemed to tolerate more than agree with. Last year he lost a bunch of close games while the coach told them all how much they sucked.
There's nothing to be happy about so far. The Pels have to turn it around and start winning to put this fire out. Next season Zion needs to find at least as much success as Luka and Trae found this season.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:07 pm to Fenwick86
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If true that is some entitled, pathetic bullshite. This is Zion's team and we want to build around him. What more do you want? Oh right, big sexy market
I will tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt, it has nothing to do with New Orleans or its market. It has to do with the talent surrounding Zion.
Also, I'll say that Zion's family has very very very high expectations for Zion and his career. And those expectations don't always align with the timeline, path, and decisions that Griffin makes. That puts Griffin in a very tough position to balance out what he thinks the organization needs and what Zion needs. I'm not absolving him in the slightest, because his job is to balance these things, but it does help understand the situation we are currently in.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:08 pm to DeionDeion
Griffin is on record multiple times saying how much he hated when Lebron decided to sign with them in Cleveland and he didn't like that process.
This is the same process...
This is the same process...
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:08 pm to NOFOX
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It's not that simple. Sure become a title contender and he can't leave, but that's not possible in 2 years.
I mean it’s definitely possible, we have enough talent and assets to be a contender in two years. I don’t have near the amount of faith in Griff to think he won’t frick it up as I once did though.
So definitely possible, just probably not likely
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:10 pm to Fenwick86
quote:Probably not to have 3 coaches in 3 seasons, what do you think?
What more do you want?
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:11 pm to NOFOX
You don't need to contend in year 3. Progression is all the man's asking for. He's been real consistent with it all year. It's his second contract where you start being concerned about contending. Zion will not turn down the max. Put together a team that can get you to the playoffs is going to be the floor for year 3.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:12 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Nah, it's entirely different IMO.
Griffin is on record multiple times saying how much he hated when Lebron decided to sign with them in Cleveland and he didn't like that process.
This is the same process...
An already champion probably nearly 30 year old Lebron is different than Zion. From their contracts, to the fact that pretty much the moment CLE got Lebron they had no draft pick capitol. Griff has a ton of that to build around Zion partially through the draft and partially through trades for premium players. All Griff could do in the Lebron era was build on the fringes.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:12 pm to supe12sta12z
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Progression is all the man's asking for.
Right. You have to see some semblance of a roster that makes sense next year. You have to make the playoffs. Not the play in. The Playoffs.
Then you need to build on that. By year 4 we need to be at least a 2nd round type of team.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:12 pm to NolaTiger52
What a complete shite show this organization has turned out to be
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:13 pm to TigerinATL
It's just not going to help. For whatever reason, the Pelicans are just not a hip team to play for and Zion is not going to want to stay. They are laying the groundwork now for an exit. It's almost the same thing as Davis. It's really not about winning or competing. It's about fame. Being in NO is going to hold him back and he can be so much more famous, make so much more money elsewhere.
No mater what, we have him for at least 2 more years. Have fun with it. Get some great young players around him. Get some characters. Give people something to watch, then get a kings ransom when we finally move him. I'm not mad or disappointed in him, it's a business decision. But they need to clear the air and let him know, he's not going anywhere anytime soon. Just be straight up..
No mater what, we have him for at least 2 more years. Have fun with it. Get some great young players around him. Get some characters. Give people something to watch, then get a kings ransom when we finally move him. I'm not mad or disappointed in him, it's a business decision. But they need to clear the air and let him know, he's not going anywhere anytime soon. Just be straight up..
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:13 pm to Fun Bunch
anyone that works with an all-world talent will be in this position. and in this NBA, it's more prominent than ever. so if he doesn't want to build that way, fine. he needs to step down.
but if he's willing to pivot, he can be successful. this is the moment we get to see if Griff's ego will get in his own way
but if he's willing to pivot, he can be successful. this is the moment we get to see if Griff's ego will get in his own way
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:15 pm to NOFOX
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The guy lives with his family. His StepDad is his closest advisor and trainer. His mom is his 'dietician'. They are VERY involved in his life and decision making process. They are overbearing, BUT you absolutely give two shits.
Still don’t care. Zion is the one that matters. If this franchise can make him enjoy his time here, everything else will fall in line.
And honestly, this franchise stands to improve when Zion realizes that it’s best for him and his career when his dad isn’t his trainer and his mom isn’t his dietician. Time to get actual qualified people in there. If the truth pisses them off, then so be it. It’s for the good of the team and Zion in the long run.
Better to rip off the bandaid now.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:18 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:Thing is, Im not even sure winning means all that much anymore. The article on AD from a few weeks ago basically said AD was fine being here until Rich Paul got in his ear, and it was over. We were coming off our best season since the Paul era.
It's nothing new. You heard the same ole shite fr Paul with his brother, AD with his Dad, and now Zion with someone in the family. It doesn't change the focus. Win and everything goes silent.
Plenty of guys are leaving winning situations, simply to get to places they'd rather play basketball.
I'd be shocked if they were able to put the toothpaste back in the tube. We know his "family" controls Zion's decisions. When Windhorst ran with the nonsense that Zion was thinking about going back to Duke, it was his Stepdad that went on air with TBob to call BS. Now we've got his "family" wanting out.
His mom and Stepdad are the only people who speak for him and we now know that, "certain family members want Williamson on another team." This shite is over.
Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:19 pm to supe12sta12z
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You don't need to contend in year 3. Progression is all the man's asking for
no, he's not just asking for progression
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t's his second contract where you start being concerned about contending. Zion will not turn down the max.
Zion is marketable in any city and his endorsements can cover what he'd lose. plus there is enough smoke to believe that it is not out of question for Zion to turn down the max.
There has been one thing after another about Zion's frustration with the organization.
the question I have for you is are you willing to roll that dice to not compete until the second contract?
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