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re: Looks like Kingsbury to the cardinals or jets as HC....bidding war underway

Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:37 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:37 am to
yeah it does appear that once you make it in the inner circle, it's kind of like Japan. you can suck at your job but as long as you work 80-100 hours/week, you're seen as doing your job well
Posted by Mr Perfect
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:47 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:53 am to
Posted by PhioftheTiger1915
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:54 am to
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The guy is a good OC but how the hell do you go from failing at texas tech to head coach in the NFL

He needs to pay a royalty to Sean McVay if he gets an NFL head coaching job
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:27 am to
Him being courted by two NFL teams after an uneventful stint as Texas Tech's HC shows the importance of the QB position in the NFL. Both teams have 2nd year QB's and the #1 objective for both is to develop those guys into top tier NFL QB's. If so, they feel the other pieces will fall into place.

Or to put it simply, teams are looking for the next Sean McVay and are trying to replicate what he's done in LA with Goff.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:31 am to
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Once you're in as an NFL coach you're in. All you have to do is convince people that you're organized


BINDER
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:44 am to
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Or to put it simply, teams are looking for the next Sean McVay and are trying to replicate what he's done in LA with Goff.


100%

A good debate is KK v Lafleur
Posted by LSUPERMAN
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:46 am to
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The guy is a good OC but how the hell do you go from failing at texas tech to head coach in the NFL


It seems like everyone is focusing on him failing at Texas Tech. We are talking about Texas Tech in Lubbock, Texas correct? I can understand if he failed at Florida or Tennessee but it's Texas Tech! You probably not getting the best coordinators and probably not paying the price for them. Forget trying to recruit. Lubbock, TX!! Let that sink in. Will he fail? Who knows, but I can't knock for failing at Texas Tech.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:51 am to
Lafluer is the product of the coaches around him. KK is a product of himself. Packers made a poor choice and they’re gonna pay for it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:54 am to
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The guy is a good OC but how the hell do you go from failing at texas tech to head coach in the NFL

Young innovative offensive mind that always seems to get good stuff out of his qbs


In the NFL, he doesnt have a large talent disadvantage from being in a mexican desert, and he can completely let someone else worry about the defense and run it entirely.


Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 8:55 am to
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I’d rather my team take a shot on Kingsbury than some of the other retread names floating around like Munchak and Caldwell



I'd rather give a new guy a chance than see some uninspiring retread hire. People with new ideas getting opportunities is good for the league.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:00 am to
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All you have to do is convince people that you're organized

and that last time wasn't really your fault, you were just in a tough situation
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:03 am to
But why??
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:05 am to
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and that last time wasn't really your fault, you were just in a tough situation


We call that the hue Jackson
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:09 am to
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I'd rather give a new guy a chance than see some uninspiring retread hire. People with new ideas getting opportunities is good for the league.


No joke, although Jeff Fisher is available so there's always that.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:51 am to
being an offensive genius takes you farther in the NFL.

Player scouting and drafting/signing can be done by the GM and front office. You can hire a DC to completely run the defense.

He doesn’t have to benHC and GM, and he isn’t going to be at a huuuuuge talent almost disadvantage every time he steps on the field.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116322 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:28 am to
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I'd rather give a new guy a chance than see some uninspiring retread hire. People with new ideas getting opportunities is good for the league.


Yeah. It is kind of nice to see teams thinking a bit outside of the box and taking chances with guys instead of the old NFL way of hiring retread after retread. It is weird that KK gets fired from a college job and gets an NFL job, but at least its interesting.

Although you know this is always cyclical, and when some of these chances fail in 3 years, the retreads will be back in vogue.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:31 am to
Who fits his offense better? Rosen or Darnold?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66847 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:43 am to
It’s fun that both went to Colleges to play in pro style offenses to prepare for the NFL only to turn around and maybe get Kingsbury as their HC in the NFL
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