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Redirecting LSU's focus to young American athletes may make the respective teams less competitive, but who cares?
I’m sure the coaches whose jobs depend solely on winning and losing care. They aren’t importing talent to spite Americans. They are simply trying to bring in the best players they can get in order to have the best success possible. If that happens to be players from other countries, so be it. For you, as a fan, it’s just entertainment. For he or she as a coach it’s their profession.
The coaches who wins with foreign players gets promotions and increasingly lucrative contracts. The coach who loses with domestic players gets fired.
Sports are one of the best meritocracies in the world. If the US players are getting beaten out here is some advice …get better! All the coach really wants is the best player regardless of race, nationality, or socioeconomic status.
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I am absolutely certain it's due to all the pheromones these teenage boys release around a hot teacher. It sends them into out-of-control hormonal overdrive, and they risk 20 in the hole to do it.
I'm sure teenage boys have been releasing pheromones since the beginning of human existence. That's not anything new.
IMO, what new is western society's "delayed adulthood". 30, 40, 50 years ago the maturity gap between you average 25 year old and average 16 year old was pretty vast. Now, you have 25 year olds who are incapable of "adulting" and are more childlike than 25 year olds just a few decades ago. That is combined with the fact that most teachers don't really experience societal adulthood as quickly as non-teachers.
Think of the usual journey to becoming a teacher. 8 years of elementary/junior high school, followed by 4 years of HS, then 4 years of college, then into teaching children. You never really leave a world academia or a place where kids are not a big part of the workplace. You just become older "kids" So some (not all, of course) of teachers see themselves maturity-wise as being closer to 16 year olds than a 35-40 year old who has been in the adult work world for well over a decade or two.
If that line is blurred, the "hooking up" with someone you see as within your maturity level doesn't seem as outrageous as it would to a 25 year old who is often one of the youngest people in his/her office, plant, factory, industry, etc.
re: Teacher who allegedly had sex with student in school closet, did 5 more students
Posted by Alt26 on 5/22/26 at 11:55 am to Shorter Yards
Closets? Golf course parking lots? The next allegation to come out will be that she once got busy in a Burger King bathroom
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I would assume they all speak English. Two reasons: 1. most of the rest of the world is multilingual. English is the language commonly learned as a second or third language. 2. These guys have been playing on teams with international players. It would be common for English to be the language they use to communicate with each other
They all speak and understand English. Some a bit better than others, but they all speak it just fine. It's only Americans that are naive to the fact many people in other countries are multi-lingual, with English being a common language.
For example, here is a video of LSU's latest commitment, Michael Ruzic. He's Croatian. See if you have trouble understanding him. Particularly the part at about the 1:20 mark when he says one of the NBA players he likes to watch and try to model his game after is a guy named Naz Reid? Who coached him in college again?
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I might need to start a new thread and someone explain this to me. Alex Box stadium is sold out each season…
30+ games, 12k attendance at least, avg ticket price is $15 - That’s at least $180,000 per home game.
$5.4 million in just ticket sales each season. Sponsorships, suites, boosters, etc… are extra.
That's just your estimated revenue
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How the hell are we poor? Lol
It's expensive to operate LSU baseball
In 23-24 LSU baseball generated $6,476,138 in revenue. That's good!
Unfortunately, it had expenses totaling $8,444,469...which means it operated at a nearly $2M deficit
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LSU baseball is not "poor", at all, relative to the college baseball market place. But its not so lucrative to pay a bunch of "salaries" at or above minor-league value either.
re: A tip of the hat to Steven Milam
Posted by Alt26 on 5/21/26 at 2:07 pm to TheRouxGuru
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You have absolutely no insight as to what LSU will offer a guy like Milam
I'm not trying to be argumentative. Truly. But do you have such insight? Because $700k for a single players seem really high. The college baseball marketplace doesn't seem to be that big.
re: How good will the Basketball Team be if they are all eligible?
Posted by Alt26 on 5/21/26 at 2:03 pm to mcspufftiger7
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This team will go as far as the PG takes them Still need a legit SEC PG.
In the past Wade has been able to find ways to put good offenses on the floor even without "traditional" PGs. Smart was more of a combo guard. As was Copeland last year at NC State. Yes, a PG like Waters would be tremendous, but Wade has overcome that.
Defense is my concern (as it often the case with Wade's teams)
Technically he is correct! :lol:
Just like Cliff Clavin on Jeopardy

Just like Cliff Clavin on Jeopardy
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Long days, short years.
Truest statement anyone has ever said about having children. The days can be long. But the years go by in a flash
Don't ever turn down an opportunity to take a photo/video
re: Question for OT Parents
Posted by Alt26 on 5/21/26 at 1:20 pm to SaintlyTiger88
If you are good parent, the child will become your primary focus. That doesn't mean the child should be your ONLY focus. But kids will dominate your attention. Particularly your wife's if she is a good mom. Your adult social circle will likely change. You will associate less and less with people without kids, or the people with older kids at a different stage of life than yours, and start associating more with parents of kids your child's age.
In short, the "you" time diminishes. It's an adjustment. That said, you experience a degree of love you for another human being you never knew you were capable of. There have been very few moments in my life that I knew within the moment my life had changed. Seeing my oldest child open her eyes for the very first time was one of those moments. I was immediately hit with an overwhelming feeling of love I was not expecting, nor had ever felt before. Now, that feeling will shift and change to some degree as they get older and start to pull away from their whole world revolving around you. But as someone was never 100% "all in" on having children prior to doing so, I can't and don't want to imagine my life without them now.
In short, the "you" time diminishes. It's an adjustment. That said, you experience a degree of love you for another human being you never knew you were capable of. There have been very few moments in my life that I knew within the moment my life had changed. Seeing my oldest child open her eyes for the very first time was one of those moments. I was immediately hit with an overwhelming feeling of love I was not expecting, nor had ever felt before. Now, that feeling will shift and change to some degree as they get older and start to pull away from their whole world revolving around you. But as someone was never 100% "all in" on having children prior to doing so, I can't and don't want to imagine my life without them now.
re: How good will the Basketball Team be if they are all eligible?
Posted by Alt26 on 5/21/26 at 1:07 pm to Safety Blitz
From a very high level perspective, this roster looks to have good frontcourt size and a chance to be really skilled and stretch the floor offensively. For the majority of his career Wade has been very good at putting really good offensive teams on the floor. This roster has a chance to be no different. The biggest concern is at PG. For as skilled as several of these guys are, they may not be good shot creators, which hurts things if you don't have a solid PG getting others in position to fully excel.
IMO, the bigger concern is defense and rebounding. International players are often more offensively skilled their US counterparts, but they don't play as physical a game on defense and on the boards. Niang and Dioubate are more defender/rebounders than the other guys, but we'll have to see if that is enough (pending more roster additions). Particularly, given the majority of Wade's teams have not been good defensively.
I think this roster is going to score, a lot. The concern is the same as many Wade teams. Will it be too imbalanced (good offensively, not good defensively) to allow LSU to really compete with the elite teams? Good? Yes. Elite? TBD
IMO, the bigger concern is defense and rebounding. International players are often more offensively skilled their US counterparts, but they don't play as physical a game on defense and on the boards. Niang and Dioubate are more defender/rebounders than the other guys, but we'll have to see if that is enough (pending more roster additions). Particularly, given the majority of Wade's teams have not been good defensively.
I think this roster is going to score, a lot. The concern is the same as many Wade teams. Will it be too imbalanced (good offensively, not good defensively) to allow LSU to really compete with the elite teams? Good? Yes. Elite? TBD
re: Wade really needs to find a PG/floor general type now.
Posted by Alt26 on 5/21/26 at 11:27 am to MeanStreak
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From people who are in the know, that's not the argument they intend to make. They will argue the rule itself, and if and the allowance of international pros and g leaguers to play pro ball and still be eligible then RJ Luis should be no different if he never stepped on an NBA court.
The NCAA rules allow a player to play college basketball (under certain conditions) even if they previously played in pro league (Euro, G-Leauge, etc) as long as they haven't previously played college basketball. That why guys coming to college directly from the G-League and international pro leagues are eligible...because they didn't previously play college basketball.
Luis doesn't fit that criterial. The NCAA also successfully argued in the Beadiko case that Beadiko was ineligible because he signed a NBA contract (2-way contracts are NBA contracts). Luis signed a 2-way contract with Utah. The NCAA's position is the signing of that contract is what made him ineligible...not actually playing any NBA games under it.
re: Wade really needs to find a PG/floor general type now.
Posted by Alt26 on 5/21/26 at 9:28 am to MeanStreak
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He wont be cleared by the NCAA, but if we have support from the local Judiciaries that wont matter. Injunctions, delayed hearings, appeals etc. We could conceivably lose the case next April and still get a full year out of these guys.
His situation is more in line with Charles Beadiko. Best case scenario is a local judge would grant a TRO. However, the T stands for "temporary". I suspect the permanent ruling would fall more in line with the Beadiko ruling.
If you want to make the argument, go ahead. However, if I were advising Wade I would tell him not to count on Luis being a part of the roster and to plan accordingly...which I'm sure Wade is.
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I wish I never went down the rabbit hole and read this thread. You really cannot imagine how dumb people are until you read threads like this one.
Yeah, I tried to follow the conversation and I have know idea what that one particular poster was trying to convey/argue. It's like he was having an argument with himself and presenting two differing viewpoints simultaneously.
As for Schmidt, when you turn down a like 1st round selection to play college baseball the expectations for great success in college is high. That's just the way it is. Two years in, he had not reached those high expectation levels. Some may argue he hasn't even come close...even there was some improvement from last season.
Fair or not, I think a lot of people used Kade Anderson as a barometer for Schmidt. A Louisiana kid that had a really good HS career before coming to LSU who had a bit of an up and down first season at LSU, but exploded into a dominant pitcher in year two. Expecting Schmidt to go from mid-week starter/occasional weekend reliever to the best pitcher in college baseball was a bit much. But I think most expected, or at least hoped, the development would trend more towards 2nd year Anderson than #3 starter/average SEC pitcher.
Anderson was in his 3rd year at LSU last season, so maybe that extra year of physical maturity was the difference (even though he did not play in his first year). But from people I know who know Schmidt a little bit I think the knock was more on his mental maturity than physical pitching ability. Hopefully in year 3 of college the mental and physical maturity develop and he becomes the dominant pitcher everyone expected him to be. But for right now, it's not outrageous to say he hasn't met expectations yet.
re: Real talk about Will Wade and the general media and what people say on X.
Posted by Alt26 on 5/21/26 at 8:28 am to Tiger Ugly
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He nailed the hypocrisy and double standard square on the head.
Completely.
There ALREADY "pros", including international pros playing college basketball. Illinois just went to the Final Four with several. Hell, McMahon's top commit before he was fired was one. Also, as Matt points out, programs like UNC and Kentucky were trying to sign the players LSU ultimately signed. If they go to Kentucky or UNC we hear nothing but how great a job their coaches did. Particularly UNC's first year HC. But Wade does it and it's "horrible for college basketball." I guess the double-standard is you are allowed to have a few international pros on your team...but not most of your starting 5. Somehow the former is ok, but the latter isn't.
No one listens to Wade when he does interviews...because that would throw a water on the hypocritical fire. But he has already acknowledged this will likely be a one season approach ahead of anticipated NCAA rule changes. But Wade doesn't owe the NCAA, or particularly the sports media, anything. If they had their druthers, they would have permanently ended his career as a D-1 basketball coach. Not because they had any prior personal vendetta against Wade. But because they could "celebrate" ending his career as a skin on the wall. That, despite the fact their feigned outrage was totally hypocritical knowing full well Wade wasn't doing anything all of the other big time HCs of power programs were doing. Hell, you had Dickie V constantly celebrating John Calipari..a guy who had TWO Final Four appearances vacated at TWO different schools for NCAA rules violations...and I like Calipari!
I don't think Wade ever wanted to be a "villain". But at this point I think he has just embraced it. Largely because he's not in the business of making his competition happy by living up to some arbitrary moral standard that they don't hold themselves to.
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None of these guys have eye poppping stats for the most part.
Only 1 of the 5 starters for Michigan this year averaged double figures last season. I think things turned out ok for them
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Who else
Johnny Jones
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I think we should just quit college sports altogether and have local pro teams
And they would fold after a few years for lack of interest. Just like so many minor league teams, in all sports
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I wouldn't care if tiger stadium was the home of the baton rouge tigers and they were not pretending to be students
And after the initial novelty wore off this is what the crowds would look like
The popularity of is a result of the 100+ year of goodwill built into the "brand name". Take Illinois State's roster, put them in LSU's uniforms playing as the LSU Tigers and Tiger Stadium will fill to capacity (at least for the 1st half). But take Georgia's roster, put them in generic uniforms and call them the "Baton Rouge Tigers" and Tiger Stadium eventually sits 70% empty.
You have an emotional attachment to LSU. You cheer for LSU. You care about LSU. The players have always been a revolving door. Even before NIL/transfer era. It's the institution that has remained the constant for decades. Lose that goodwill and you lose everything.
For example, Michelob Ultra is the highest selling beer in the US. But take that EXACT same beer but brand it as "Mike's Ultra" in a different bottle and it doesn't sell. People are buying the brand, not necessarily the beer
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what do you think would be the ideal system? if we go fully amateur again and just have club teams basically they will be paid illegally again.
Eventually, yes. That's because supporters of the club LSU team will want to see their team beat Alabama's club team...which would eventually lead to LSU's club team supporters illegally recruiting better players for their team. The cycle would just start over.
re: Why am I supposed to be so mad at Wade signing "pros"?
Posted by Alt26 on 5/20/26 at 2:57 pm to Coastrashtiger
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He has no clue about basketball has proved that over many years. Not only that throughout the entire McMahon tenure up until the day before the switch to Wade, McMahon personally and on orders wanted to keep McMahon over Wade. I’m not saying I know for sure but there’s enough evidence that Moscona does not understand at all or want Wade as a coach/ambassador for LSU. Moscona doesn’t dislike Wade the person or wish him bad success because that would mean the hand that feeds would do worse. But at every turn will downplay credit to any Wade success and try and build up McMahon or any other program. It’s just odd, I assume it goes back to when Jordy Cullotta left Guranty and took the amount of acces they had with him to his own thing, maybe has to do with that.
There was a power struggle behind the scenes to get Wade back to LSU. Not everyone was fully on board. Including Verge and some prominent boosters. Matt has good relationships with Verge and some of the boosters. He doesn't have strong relationships with the people who were the driving forces to get Wade back. That was largely Jeff Landry and his political supporters' allies/supporters. So some of what you were hearing from Matt was just one side of the behind the scenes battle...the side that was not all in on Wade returning. They didn't want to allow themselves to be bullied by the Governor, for various reasons. Money being the primary reason given the expense of firing Kelly and hiring Kiffin.
Matt doesn't dislike Wade, and I don't think they have a bad relationship. It's just that he was only discussing the information he was privy to. In this instance, the sources providing that information did not want Wade back to LSU.
On this particular topic I'm ok with Matt's position (even if I somewhat disagree). I think on the whole ALL college sports fans would just like a world where there was clarity on the rules and there weren't constant runs to the courthouse to bend them in your favor for your specific need at the time. But if that is how the sausage is made then you either try to use it for a competitive advantage or get left behind
As a fan I would MUCH rather see LSU open with Clemson than South Carolina St. because that is a far more compelling and entertaining matchup. However, from competitive advantage standpoint the risk of loss is FAR greater than the benefit of a win. For example, if Texas opens with Ohio last year instead of @ Ohio St they likely reach the CFP (assuming the rest of the seasons results played out exactly as they did)
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Its not even about that, its a real head scratcher why so much hate?
Because he was dubbed by the hypocritical media and other coaches as the "face" of cheating...when they knew full well it has been going on for decades (the media) and they do the same thing (the coaches). It's like Rafael Palmero bashing Jose Canseco for saying Palmero used steroids...when he new damn good and well that he DID use steroids.
They don't like him because he didn't "suffer enough" as a skin on the wall for the media. When the story first broke in 2019, the media was going to "change college basketball forever". Less than two years later their crusade was rendered meaningless when the transfer rules and NIL became "legal". Because of that Wade wasn't banished to Elba forever like they hoped. He quickly popped up in Lake Charles and began having success once more.
They hate him because he broke an unwritten, ever shifting, moral code by returning to the school that fired him.
They hate him because he's not behaving in a way the media thinks he's supposed to behave.
But in the end all that matter is what LSU fans think. Which leads to the question for LSU fans: Do you want to be liked by people who really don't care about you? Or do you want to see your team win? By all accounts McMahon was liked by the media. However, I don't recall glowing articles about how he was such a great guy while he was leading the worst program in the SEC. That's because the media didn't really care about a guy who lost, constantly.
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