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Delpit won it in 2019 for his 2018 season

Unfortunately, I have no sex or fighting stories to share. The best I can do was one year our office (small office) made the younger workers do a Christmas skit at the party. We rented out a private room at a restaurant for our party, but otherwise the restaurant was open for normal business. One of the guys was a frumpy 6'3, 220 dude. He was dressed as Buddy the Elf. Evidently he got hammered and said something bad about his immediate boss...without realizing she was in earshot. He wasn't sure if she heard him or not, but he spent the rest of the party a nervous wreck that she did. Eventually, everyone coming to the restaurant that night was greeted outside by a big wasted goofball dressed as an elf sobbing and chain-smoking cigarettes terrified he had just gotten himself fired.

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I watch a lot of basketball and not just LSU. We have not had the talent of other schools

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Is it possible that the players aren't that bad but they are just being poorly coached.

LSU just fired a football coach who was underperforming with what was thought to be a really talented team. Maybe all of those players WERE just really bad. Or maybe Kelly should have consulted with McMahon to figure out the secret to producing unsatisfactory results yet never being blamed for them.

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i don't care what the rankings say.

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Yet, the rankings seem to matter in April, May, June as the basis for saying, every offseason "this is going to be McMahon's best team"...only for the season to happen and those talented players in the spring suddenly turn into no talent bums.

Including this year, LSU will have had nearly 40 different players play for the program over the last 4 years. Yet, somehow the rankings that every year put LSU's roster within the middle of the SEC are always horribly wrong at the end of the season.

Perhaps when trying to diagnose the root cause of a problem it's more likely the one constant could be the root cause rather than the 40 different variables.

The logic is he is a midwestern guy (from S. Dakota; spent most of his career in the midwest) and the expectations at Alabama are unbearable. Many schools would be pleased with a coach getting to the cusp of the CFP (last year) and getting in this year. Alabama is not one of those schools because he's having to live in the shadow of what Saban did there.

An escape to Michigan means a return to the midwest and not having to deal with the insane level of expectations at Alabama. That may be appealing to someone looking for a better quality of life

FWIW, I don't think he leave. Just giving you the logic behind it.

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Fire everyone and burn more millions of dollars then, they will be at square one again. Rinse and repeat. Some of you actually like LSU'S basketball program is a blue blood.

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Over the last 3 seasons McMahon has been the worst coach (performance wise) in the SEC. He's 14-40 in SEC play during that period. That's the worst conference record (excluding Texas and OU) during that time period...by 5 games! He has a sub .500 overall winning % and a ~.250 winning % in SEC play. 5 other head coaches were hired by SEC teams in the same offseason as McMahon was hired. He's the ONLY one of those 6 to not yet reach the NCAA Tournament. In fact, even if you include Texas and OU, LSU is the ONLY program in the SEC to not reach the NCAA Tournament over the last 3 years.

Are you suggesting there isn't rational basis for fans calling for a change? If statistically being the worst performing coach over multiple years isn't a rational basis I'm not sure what is. Over the last (nearly) three decades LSU has fired coaches that performed FAR better than worst in the league. Yet, somehow criticism of McMahon is unwarranted? In all of my years of following LSU sports I've never seen such unwavering support (or at least a reluctance to assess any blame for the poor results) for a coach that has lost so much. It's bizarre.

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Some of you actually like LSU'S basketball program is a blue blood.

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No one is acting like LSU is a "blue blood". But neither is Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, etc, etc. Hell, even Florida wasn't a very good program, historically, until the found the right HC (a young coach from Marshall named Donovan) and another recently. History has shown over, and over, and over again, that even historically average programs can become great if they find the right coach.

Look, if you don't like basketball. That's fine. Not every sport is for everyone. But if you are going to involve yourself in a conversation about it as least have some degree of fact based knowledge rather than just spouting off platitudes and group-think misstatements

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If he transfers it will be to Texas tech

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If that happens Patrick may want to hire some extra security

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They don't have any players. The university is not investing as it should in basketball. Cant be good in all 3

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I'm so tired of hearing this pathetic excuse.

The players are paid through NIL funds...which is private money. LSU is not paying the players directly (or at least haven't been). Certainly, the collectives can allocate money however they see fit, but there is nothing stopping a HC from going out and fundraising to pay his players. That's how things worked for a LONG time throughout major college basketball. The HC would buddy up with wealthy boosters to get the money necessary to buy blue chip players (unless you are one of those naive souls who believe Wade was the only coach in the history of CBB to ever pay players).

On that note, if you believe Wade was paying players at LSU (and he was), then that big money to buy true blue chip guys was coming from somewhere. Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't out of his own pocket. For the first few months after getting the LSU job he went all over the state meeting and speaking with wealthy booster and potential boosters. The reason was to raise the money necessary he knew he needed to compete on the recruiting trail. He did the same thing when he got the McNeese job. The first order of business was meeting with the necessary businesspeople and wealthy donors in the area to get them on board to fund the team. It worked. McNeese basketball had more interest and money flowing in than ever before.

McMahon is like Trent Johnson. He's never really wanted to do any of that. He's not barnstorming to generate the money to go after blue chip guys. He doesn't want to get deep in the mud of basketball recruiting, which is a murky, cutthroat landscape. So to a large degree the reason he doesn't have the funding is because he doesn't want to make a great effort to get it. When you combine that with struggles as an on the floor coach, you get the results we've seen over the last 3 seasons.

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5 and 9 are special. Just like 20. If you win a heisman I am fine with your number being retired.

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But 5 and 9 aren't formally retired. Until then, they should be available. If you don't want them available, then formally retire them.

Side rant: I HATE the dual-number trend. Nearly every number from about 0-30 (with some exceptions) is "dual number". Is it that big of a deal? Probably not. But every season you'll see several games where some team gets a penalty (almost always on special teams) because there are two guys with the same jersey number on the field at the same time. Numbers used to be a small benefit of seniority.

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7 and 18 need a complete overhaul. I'd give them back to the players to pass down if they choose.

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If those "traditions" mean something to the players, then keep it. But to act like it is some sacrosanct LSU tradition is absurd. It's kind of an attempt to be like A&M. The 18 "tradition" doesn't have its roots in some memorable event. It started as a joke amongst friends that "unathletic white guys" should get No. 18. When Mauk left Hester was randomly assigned the number by the equipment manager. When Hester was leaving he "bequeathed" it to his good friend, Richard Dickson, saying they needed to keep the string of it going to "unathletic" white guys going. Hester himself has told that story. It was only after Hester left that LSU marketing fabricated some BS story about its significance to make it a great "tradition" because the real origin wasn't anything special.

Again, if the players like it, keep it. But it's not some integral part of LSU football lore.

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They shot 13/27 and we shot 4/24. Bring them down to 35% and us up to 31% and you have a really close game.
Im not sold on us being good or bad, but we have shot 31% beyond the arc this year and our opponents 33%.

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I think that's where you start to get into the strength of schedule debate. On the season as a whole your numbers are right. But in the last two games, one vs. an ACC team and another vs a Big 12 team, the gap is much, much wider. BC/TTU shot a combined 43%. LSU in those games shot a combined 16%

Hopefully that's just a small sample two games of really, really bad shooting by LSU combined with really good shooting by opponents. But right now the trends, albeit with limited data, are going in a bad, bad direction.

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While it wasn't the only reason we lost, no matter how well we played otherwise we weren't winning that game going 4-24 from the three point line. No way.

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In isolation you could say it was just one really bad shooting day for LSU and one great shooting day for the opponent. However, this is back to back games where LSU shot less than 20% from 3. In fact, over the course of the last 4 games, which conicides with a step up in competition relative to the first 5 games, LSU is shooting 32% from three...and much of that is propped up by a 39% effort vs. DePaul. LSU was under 30% vs. Drake, BC and Texas Tech.

They've generally been able to overcome that because they, until the last 2 games, shot really well from 2 and made a lot of FTs. Maybe it's just a slump. Or maybe it's the result of playing an ACC and Big 12 team. I guess we will learn a bit more with a game vs another ACC team this weekend.

One game, good or bad, doesn't define a season. As an LSU fan you hope things are different this year. But when you struggle to beat a bottom of the ACC team and get blown out by a top 1/3rd Big 12 team the moment you jump up in competition you aren't going to win over many believers when you have a losing overall record over three years and a really, really, bad record vs. power conf. opponents during that time.

I am thrilled Baker is staying. But Smart's situation is a little unique and not really a great comparison for Baker. When Smart was hired the upper-level major programs weren't hiring a lot of assistant coaches. Had Smart's alma mater been Memphis instead of Georgia it's unlikely Georgia would have hired him. Many ADs at big time programs with big time expectations are hesitant to take a chance on an assistant who has never been a HC. Smart being a Georgia alum made it more acceptable for the AD to take that risk.