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The ROI on college investment
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:51 am
Is getting a degree even worth the thousands anymore?
I don’t see companies paying top dollar for educated individuals anymore. Perhaps the educated ones started their own business via skills.
Companies are not paying for 4 year degrees any longer.
I don’t see companies paying top dollar for educated individuals anymore. Perhaps the educated ones started their own business via skills.
Companies are not paying for 4 year degrees any longer.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:52 am to Rhino5
It's a 4-5 year party so in that sense it's very worth it.
Unless you are the one paying.
Unless you are the one paying.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:52 am to Rhino5
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Is getting a degree even worth the thousands anymore?
A degree was a requirement of my job, so yes.
Do I need a degree to do my job, no.
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:52 am to Rhino5
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Is getting a degree even worth the thousands anymore?
Depends of the degree...some are absolutely required for employment.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:52 am to Rhino5
Just learn the skills and lie and say you have a degree. Most companies will never check to see if you actually have one.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:53 am to Rhino5
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Companies are not paying for 4 year degrees any longer.
Yes they are.
College ROI is great if you major in a subject that leads to a lucrative field. Even with higher student loans.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:53 am to Rhino5
What? My wife’s in lowly HR and they require a 4 yr degree. We hire full engineers as planners.
Now, out of state tuition at Auburn is $56k/yr…that is not worth it.
Now, out of state tuition at Auburn is $56k/yr…that is not worth it.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:53 am to Rhino5
All a bachelors mean is that you are responsible enough to finish a program that last years to complete.
Those people usually show up for work and have some level of intelligence. (Education level =/= intelligence though).
Those people usually show up for work and have some level of intelligence. (Education level =/= intelligence though).
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:55 am to Rhino5
It's just supply & demand.
20-30 years ago a 4 year degree was quite an accomplishment and a good leg up on the rest of the potential employee field.
Today anyone who has the slightest bit of determination has a 4 year degree of some kind.
Gotta set yourself apart.
20-30 years ago a 4 year degree was quite an accomplishment and a good leg up on the rest of the potential employee field.
Today anyone who has the slightest bit of determination has a 4 year degree of some kind.
Gotta set yourself apart.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:56 am to Rhino5
For technical or professional degrees, absolutely. Now is it worth paying full tuition and out of state tuition costs to attend a “big name school” versus staying in state and getting a degree using TOPS, absolutely not.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:57 am to Rhino5
I make more money on one skill that I learned over a summer than I do with my education. The education looks good on paper, the skills I learned are real-world and in demand.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:58 am to Rhino5
I always like to roll coal on the college boys when I see them on the side of the road panhandling
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:59 am to Rhino5
I went CC for first two years and then an in-state school for the rest of my Bachelors. Went private for my Masters, but they were actually cheaper then some of the other public, in-state graduate programs.
I also went into private sector after working years of public, so I definitely wouldn’t be making the money I do now without both of those degrees. By the end of next year, my salary will have tripled.
That all said, it could absolutely be done cheaper and with less required courses.
I also went into private sector after working years of public, so I definitely wouldn’t be making the money I do now without both of those degrees. By the end of next year, my salary will have tripled.
That all said, it could absolutely be done cheaper and with less required courses.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:00 am to Rhino5
You can look up ROIs on college degrees now. Companies are still paying for degrees that have marketable skill sets
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:02 am to Rhino5
I think it depends on your preferred career path. For my wife and I, I think it was a good investment. For a lot of people out there, some experience in the trades would be way more beneficial.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:04 am to Rhino5
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:06 am to Rhino5
If I were a parent and looking at my kid going to college I would have them enter into college with as many credits as possible. Let them take college credits at local community College or junior colleges and it'll reduce the cost once they get to the 4-year.
This would be a good plan for someone who plans on attending a state school.
I doubt elite schools would accept those types of credits.
Just don't go to college and pay for remedial courses which are literally the everywhere. I even used to watch calc-based physics lectures from MIT professors, they went over the exact same shite as I did at a state school. Am I saying the state school is the exact same? No, but at a base level they're pretty similar.
This would be a good plan for someone who plans on attending a state school.
I doubt elite schools would accept those types of credits.
Just don't go to college and pay for remedial courses which are literally the everywhere. I even used to watch calc-based physics lectures from MIT professors, they went over the exact same shite as I did at a state school. Am I saying the state school is the exact same? No, but at a base level they're pretty similar.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:09 am to Rhino5
I think the college diploma is becoming the new high school diploma in the sense that, even if the job definitely does not need a college education, because (I guess) employers want to see that you had the discipline to finish a degree.
So, in that sense, getting your undergrad degree in general studies is fine if you're just looking for any entry level job and need any degree.
If you're looking for an actual high-paying, specialized job, without going to grad school, then you need to get a degree in a field like engineering or business.
And, having worked with college students, I try to emphasize the following:
Are you trying to do something outside of school related to your degree to help your career, or are you just sitting around and doing nothing productive outside of your studying?
A degree in mechanical engineering is great, but if you don't have any form of experience through a job, internship or research in the field while you're in school, then you're going to be passed by by everyone who does have this experience. You can't just go to class and then hang out/party and expect a job to fall in your lap.
Of course, there are still trades that require trade school, so if that's what you're interested in, then a four-year degree probably isn't worth it.
So, to answer your question, the return on investment is specific to the individual and their goals. If you're looking to make six figures and you're a gender studies major with a limited resume outside of school, then you're probably not going to get close to the return on investment that you want.
So, in that sense, getting your undergrad degree in general studies is fine if you're just looking for any entry level job and need any degree.
If you're looking for an actual high-paying, specialized job, without going to grad school, then you need to get a degree in a field like engineering or business.
And, having worked with college students, I try to emphasize the following:
Are you trying to do something outside of school related to your degree to help your career, or are you just sitting around and doing nothing productive outside of your studying?
A degree in mechanical engineering is great, but if you don't have any form of experience through a job, internship or research in the field while you're in school, then you're going to be passed by by everyone who does have this experience. You can't just go to class and then hang out/party and expect a job to fall in your lap.
Of course, there are still trades that require trade school, so if that's what you're interested in, then a four-year degree probably isn't worth it.
So, to answer your question, the return on investment is specific to the individual and their goals. If you're looking to make six figures and you're a gender studies major with a limited resume outside of school, then you're probably not going to get close to the return on investment that you want.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:09 am to Rhino5
Simple supply and demand. Damn near everyone has a four year college degree now. Not so many know how to weld, turn a wrench, frame a house, etc.
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