re: Mathieu officially signing 3 year $33 million deal. 18 Million guaranteed

Yeah. Hot take that will get me downvoted, but I think we still downgraded overall at the position pretty heavily: Mathieu & Maye vs Williams and Jenkins. Understandably, though, since Mickey has been pretty forthcoming about their desire to clean up the cap.

Have to hope that TM's intangibles make up some of the difference.

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Yeah. Hot take that will get me downvoted, but I think we still downgraded overall at the position pretty heavily: Mathieu & Maye vs Williams and Jenkins. Understandably, though, since Mickey has been pretty forthcoming about their desire to clean up the cap.

Have to hope that TM's intangibles make up some of the difference.

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I'm curious how CGJ and our 2nd round pick are impacted.

Remember when Marcus Williams ran side by side with the offensive player all the way to the end zone. I’m going to miss that guy.

i wasn't too far off with 8m and 11m total with kickers. curious the specifics.

Tyrann mathieu and Malcolm Jenkins are the exact same player except mathieu is 4 years younger. It’s an upgrade no matter how you slice it. Their stats were the exact same last year except badger had more pics because he’s a playmaker

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Reverse Jenkins and TM7.

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I'm not saying which ones are better. I'm saying saints are going from this one to that one as per safety position. That's all.

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Yeah, because every player is judged off of one play. Mathieu is still good, but if you take your LSU homer glasses off, he is not close to Williams and he is 30 years old. Williams was paid accordingly. TM is not the player he once was, but is still a good player. Glad to have him.

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Well yeah because MW is a very specific type of safety. He excels in single high. He's a master of it. But he wasn't a downhill guy and wasn't a one-on-one coverage guy. Wasn't a blitzer. That kind of thing.

TM7 kind of does it all. Jack of all trades, but master of none kind of deal. He was flexible in KC. They had him up high, they had him in two-safety looks, had him in the slot, had him blitzing. He did a variety of different things. You know who else did that? Malcolm Jenkins.

So no, he's not as good as Marcus Williams and isn't as young. But it's not the right player comp. He's a valuable piece to add to our defense because he basically does everything Jenkins did for us...but better. He's not leaps and bounds better than Jenkins but he is an upgrade.

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wasn't that good last year, and will decline a great deal every year.

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He finished the 2021 regular season with 76 total tackles, six passes defensed, three interceptions and three fumble recoveries, earning his second consecutive Pro Bowl selection.

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Eh. I mean, by all measures he wasn't an All Pro last year but he was still pretty damn solid for them according to PFF. Better than Jenkins. People also said Jenkins was going to decline in his two years here once we got him since he was 32 at the time we signed him. And he was pretty damn solid for us.

TM7 didn't play in the divisional round against Buffalo and the Chiefs got torched by the Bills. They were much better defensively against Cincy in the AFCCG. They still lost, but had plenty of chances to win thanks to the D.


ETA: But to your credit, SFP, he does play a less valuable position than Williams. We will miss Williams a lot this year. How much will be dependent on Maye and PJ Williams, not as much of MW's role will be laid on Mathieu's shoulders. He's going to be asked to basically do what Jenkins did for us but at a higher level. The only bad thing is we gave Maye a lot of money for the next 2-3 years. I hope he pans out.

TELL ME HE’S GETTING #7

Weak arse tackler. Marcus Williams sucks