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Good post, I agree.

The outcry about Shough has more to do with narratives people have (wanting Shadeur or Nuss next year) more so than the actual player. We haven’t had a good 2nd round pick since McCoy, and the outcry for those picks wasn’t 1/100th of this.
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Edge (begrudgingly, I want neither in the 2nd or 3rd)
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Will definitely be boring mid CB that we don't retain after first contract OR eventual bust CB since we almost always do that in the 2nd/3rd
Taylor won't make it to 71 imo

re: Saints QB options for 2025

Posted by Rand AlThor on 4/25/25 at 1:13 pm
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love his arm talent. keeps his eyes down field, moves the pocket with his feet, he shows touch on deep passes, out passes, makes quick reads under pressure, athletic enough to run, tremendous size for his athletic ability, age is maturity imo, has that underdog background. I've watched his highlights over and over and i know its only all the good stuff, but i see nothing but a first round talent qb. and i had no idea who this cat was when i watched the combine stuff.


Fair enough. I'm not worried about the age either other than sometimes it means "can he really get better?" but QBs get better in their 30s all the time so not really an issue. I'm not worried about the injuries either since they were all bone breaks which to me is more freak injury stuff.

My fears with him are mostly:
1) He kinda has that tall QB thing where it feels like when the pocket breaks down a bit he's tripping over his own feet. Guys like Brady and Manning had this early too though
2) There are a lot of examples both in games and in the combine where he just loses the ball and throws weird arse misses. Don't know whats up with that

re: Jalen Milroe

Posted by Rand AlThor on 4/25/25 at 1:11 pm
Fair enough position.

Here's my only thing with Milroe..he DOES have a lot of upside obviously due to the athletic talent. If they take him my hope is there's a plan there with Moore to develop him.

re: Saints QB options for 2025

Posted by Rand AlThor on 4/25/25 at 1:08 pm
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There's nothing that guarantees you to get that. Franchise QBs are like top 10 picks probably top five picks typically. The Tom Brady approach only works every so often and not likely. They're doing exactly what I wanted them to do I want them to get a QB later for depth. Haner isn't gonna cut it but if you have 2 Spencer Rattlers I'd feel better about that. And "if" we have the chance to get a franchise type guy next year then yes you do it.


The people here who want to "wait til next year" are talking out of both sides of their mouth. "Draft players to improve the roster now, but be bad this year and get a top pick for a QB!" This team won 5 games last year with a DOGSHIT coaching staff and very very bad injury luck. If we actually draft any impact players this year it is very feasible we could be more in the 15-19 draft range next draft, and then we're even farther away.

The reality is this..drafting a QB is ALWAYS going to be a dart throw unless you get the first pick (still some risk there obviously, too). You are almost always going to have to draft a guy higher than the board dictates - the Titans just took Ward #1 despite him being more of a consensus 8-15 range on big boards with three amazing blue chip talents sitting there. No matter what we will probably have to reach eventually to draft a QB.

What I care most about is that the team believes in whatever QB they draft, whomever it may be.

re: Saints QB options for 2025

Posted by Rand AlThor on 4/25/25 at 1:05 pm
Chad, what do you like about Shough? Sell me. He scares me man

re: Jalen Milroe

Posted by Rand AlThor on 4/25/25 at 1:04 pm
You may not but it's very prevalent here. I love LSU too but a lot can happen in a year. It is not even remotely close to a lock that Nuss will even be a first round pick. The QB class next year "looks great now" but things can change. NFL teams aren't going to make a decision on the team based on the off chance that they may have a pick that has a QB available they like next year.

re: Texas QB

Posted by Rand AlThor on 4/25/25 at 1:00 pm
Hasn't been the same since his AC joint injury imo