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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
648 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:55 pm to
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anyone denying ole cargo pants became a billionaire of the blood of ukranians?



Can anyone deny Putin became a multi-billionaire (or more... all money in Russia and everything else there belongs to him, solely, really) off the blood of Russians and anybody else he felt like having murdered?

But yes, I will deny it and back it up. If you want to insist he is give us an actual source that isn't an X post from Russia Today

Zelensky never was a billionaire. He’s currently worth roughly $20 million, based on reporting by Forbes Ukraine. Additional reporting by Forbes US puts that number at less than $30 million.

His main asset: an estimated 25% stake in Kvartal 95, a group of companies that produce humorous shows, which he transferred to his partners after being elected president, though he’ll likely regain his shares after leaving office. Kvartal 95 produced and owns the Servant of the People series, a popular political comedy starring Zelensky as a Ukrainian high school teacher who is elected president. Netflix, which previously streamed the show between 2017 and 2021, snapped up the rights again in March. With estimated revenues of $30 million annually, Forbes Ukraine values Zelensky’s stake at $11 million.

While he does own a flat in one of Ukraine’s most expensive apartment buildings in the center of Kyiv, it’s relatively modest by Western standards. Forbes estimates Zelensky’s entire real estate portfolio is worth $4 million, including two more wholly owned apartments, two that he co-owns, a single commercial property and five parking spaces. Zelensky did own a $4.6 million villa in Forte dei Marmi, Italy as of December 2019, according to the most recent filing by his holding company. He apparently sold it during 2020 (it had shown up in his declarations for 2018 and 2019 but not 2020) along with a small plot of land and 5 hotel rooms in Georgia (popular upper-middle-class investments in Ukraine). The cash from these sales was declared and is included in Forbes’ estimate, but because the sum is less than the estimated value of the real estate, it is possible Zelensky remains a de facto beneficiary or the cash is invested elsewhere.

Internet sleuths, or more likely Russian propagandists, have credited Zelensky with owning as many as five luxury yachts and three private jets, in addition to $60 million of shares in companies like Saudi Aramco, Meta and Tesla.

Forbes found no evidence of such a fleet, and if Zelensky does own stock in those companies it’s hard to believe those shares would be worth anywhere close to $60 million. We estimate he and his wife Olena Zelenska share a bank account that holds roughly $2 million in cash and government bonds. Their other assets, consisting of two cars and some jewelry, are worth no more than $1 million.


FORBES: President Zelensky is not a Billionaire, so how much is he worth
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2743 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:56 pm to
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Is a bigger threat than Russia, this is facts.


Defend.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10491 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 6:59 pm to
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hear he's feathering his nest in Tel Aviv


Where did you hear that?

Was it from the same guys who insisted that all his February and March 2020 videos were deep fakes being produced by the CIA from a base in Poland?

That one was one of my all time favorites.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2589 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 7:51 pm to
My favorite ( so far) is the one where they combine the nazi theme with corruption.

Russia’s Embassy in South Africa spread a false story alleging that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had purchased the villa of Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels for 8 million euros, Ukraine's Center for Countering Disinformation (CPD) reported on Jan. 5.

Yahoo - Trying to influence Africans, Russian Embassy spreads fake story about Zelenskyy buying Nazi villa
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9635 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:03 pm to
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Guyana LOVES biden. Every time he screws the US O&G industry, more capital, in the billions, flows in.


This is proof that you have zero clue about the subject. China owns 25% of that oil being produced. Additionally, the US is producing more oil and natural gas than ever in history of the world. Included is more production from offshore fields than ever.

Guyanese oil quality fits European refineries more than US refineries. Assays matter a lot.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36195 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Putin like Hitler believes the opposition nations are weak and will fold. Putin like Hitler negotiates in bad faith. Putin like Hitler murders his political enemies.

None of this indicates some evidence of a Putin grand scheme to invade Europe and defeat the West through arms. One could say the same for any number of despots. This is a childlike analogy used to support the notion that Russia is poised to invade Europe if we don't act now. Utter nonsense and propaganda but sadly it is effective.


I never said it did. I just pointed out similarities between the two men.

And no one knows what Putin would have done if he invaded Ukrsine and he was unopposed like Hitler was in Czecheoslovokia.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:22 pm to
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Imagine how anything powered by electricity is totally fricked and precision surfaces will be covered in rust when the water recedes


If the Ural river is as muddy as the Mississippi then everything will be caked in some stanky arse mud too when the water recedes.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:28 pm to
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Back on point, anyone denying ole cargo pants became a billionaire of the blood of ukranians?


Zelensky is rich but he is not billionaire rich. Also please explain how sending Patriot missiles or F16s or other military equipment to Ukraine makes Zelensky rich? I have not seen an F16 for sale on ebay or is Soros paying him for every dead Ukrainian?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3723 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:50 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

Russian forces conducted another large-scale series of missile and drone strikes against Ukraine on the night of April 10 to 11 that caused notable and likely long-term damage to Ukraine’s energy infrastructure.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba stated that Ukraine needs more Patriot air defense batteries to protect both Ukraine’s population centers and frontline areas.

The Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada adopted a new mobilization law on April 11, a significant step in addressing Ukraine’s manpower challenges amid growing manpower constraints in Ukrainian units defending on the frontline.

US European Command (EUCOM) Commander and NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) General Christopher Cavoli reported that EUCOM and NATO are strengthening their ability to respond to the “chronic threat” that Russia poses to global stability and European security in hopes of deterring future Russian aggression against NATO.

Ukraine and Latvia signed a bilateral security agreement on April 11 providing for long-term Latvian assistance and security commitments to Ukraine.

Russian authorities conducted a counterterrorism operation and reportedly killed two suspected terrorists in the Republic of Kabardino-Balkaria on April 11.

Russian forces recently made confirmed advances near Kreminna, in the direction of Chasiv Yar west of Bakhmut, and in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area on April 11.

Russian exiled opposition outlet Novaya Gazeta Europe reported on April 11 that Russian courts have commuted sentences in over half of all criminal cases against Russian veterans and active-duty servicemen due to military service in Ukraine.


Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82217 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:53 pm to
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(European Parliament) is a bigger threat than Russia, this is facts.


100.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17975 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:53 pm to
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Zelensky is rich but he is not billionaire rich. Also please explain how sending Patriot missiles or F16s or other military equipment to Ukraine makes Zelensky rich?


Duh, that's why they have to launder it. I think that means that means taking a garden hose and bar of soap or something.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19408 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 8:55 pm to
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Ukraine still uses Soviet terminology . In Soviet terminology a battery is called a system. A launcher or a group of launchers in a given location is a battery.


A Soviet S-300 battery consisted of three launchers.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9635 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:03 pm to
I finally figured out what is missing the last several months, videos of Chechen TikTok warriors shooting up shrubs.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6603 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:13 pm to
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Zelensky is rich but he is not billionaire rich.


God forbid something happens that gives Russia the ability to take the capital. If it does, he and everyone close to him has enough money and world influence to live out there days far removed from a war zone.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:13 pm to
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Ukraine still uses Soviet terminology . In Soviet terminology a battery is called a system. A launcher or a group of launchers in a given location is a battery. A Soviet S-300 battery consisted of three launchers.


Ukrainian patriot batteries consist of one or two launchers max because they are limited. Just admit that you’re wrong. Everyone knows it. Even your FSB handlers.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6546 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:14 pm to
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Chechen TikTok warriors


Considering how other Muslims chant shite like "river to the sea" for decades, I don't get how Chechens, who were tore up from the floor up by the Russians 20 years ago, just decide they're going to actively help the regime.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9635 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Considering how other Muslims chant shite like "river to the sea" for decades, I don't get how Chechens, who were tore up from the floor up by the Russians 20 years ago, just decide they're going to actively help the regime.


Shittons of money from the Kremlin to a negative local economy.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6603 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 10:26 pm to
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Considering how other Muslims chant shite like "river to the sea" for decades, I don't get how Chechens, who were tore up from the floor up by the Russians 20 years ago, just decide they're going to actively help the regime.


Same thing I thought about a year ago when those videos of Chechen soldiers, AKA, canon fodder were pretending they really wanted to fight and die in Ukraine. The first gruesome video I ever saw on the internet was a Russian soldier having his throat slit by a Chechen soldier. Now I should believe these people are best friends?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
648 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:15 am to
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Considering how other Muslims chant shite like "river to the sea" for decades, I don't get how Chechens, who were tore up from the floor up by the Russians 20 years ago, just decide they're going to actively help the regime.


Basically, Chechnya broke away from Russia when the Soviet Union collapsed, and Russia wouldn't them go... they launched a war to reclaim it but didn't win and there was a ceasefire... then Putin came into power, the Chechens suddenly bombed a Russian apartment building and killed a lot of people (to gain... the independence that they had?) and Putin made it his big thing to launch a war and pummel them into submission. Warlord Kadyrov (current Chechen ruler's father) decided his best move was to betray his fellow Chechen Warlords and make a deal with Putin to be appointed leader, so his army slaughtered the other Chechen militias. Somebody blew him up a couple of years later.

So... uh, "Chechens" don't like Russia or Putin, but they're stuck with him and oppressed by the son of a traitor to their country. If anything happens to Putin, Kadyrov will get the Ghadaffi public retirement plan in hours.

This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 1:02 am
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
648 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 12:42 am to
Kadyrov's soldiers, that he sent to Ukraine, were... useless, but apparently they aren't soldiers, they're like actors picked because they look right and all they do back home is make propaganda videos. They are all in their 20s... too young to have ever been the fabled Chechen warriors that people fear... they've only brutalized their own people in Chechnya, and have never seen combat.

Their only real role, other than threatening Zelensky that they were coming to get him on TikTok (and getting ambushed trying to join that convoy to Kyiv in the first week of the war) ended up being to hang back and execute deserting Russian troops.

(a very good exposé...)
Al Jazeera: The Real Role of Pro-Russian Chechens in Ukraine

Then

Chechen commander killed on camera while boasting about victories

As for Chechens who escaped the Kadyrov/Putin takeover in the late 90s and their descendants (and in case you need to be reminded that Russia military brutality precedes Putin, the accounts of this guy watching Russian Troops destroy his village and the men in it with flamethrowers when he was 13...):

NPR: Meet the Chechen Battalion joining Ukraine to fight Russia - and fellow Chechens

This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 12:52 am
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