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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:03 am to
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:03 am to
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notiger1997

You should go too. Hero.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:20 am to
Britain is considering providing Ukraine with prototype laser weapon
12.04.2024 13:41

The United Kingdom is considering providing Ukraine with a prototype of the DragonFire laser weapon that can shoot down drones and missiles.

This was stated by Defense Secretary Grant Shapps, Ukrinform reports citing The Telegraph.

During a visit to the Porton Down Defense Laboratory on Thursday, Shapps emphasized the importance of rapid deployment of new weapons technologies.

"Every time there’s a delay, there’s a cost attached. What I want to do is speed up what would usually be a very lengthy process, possibly up to 10 years, down to a much shorter timeframe and get it deployed, potentially on ships and potentially on land," the minister said.

According to him, the UK plans to adopt the DragonFire laser weapon by 2027. At the same time, the country is considering sending prototypes of this weapon to Ukraine earlier, even if it is not 100% perfect.

This laser weapon was created to destroy drones, but, according to Shapps, the system is powerful enough to hit faster projectiles, such as ballistic missiles.

UKRINFORM
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:30 am to
no damage but glad to see they are ignoring Jake and the rest of Biden's Invertebrates...

Drones attack Novoshakhtinsk oil refinery in Russia overnight - media
12.04.2024 11:39

On the night of April 12, four drones attacked the Novoshakhtinsk oil refinery in Russia’s Rostov region.

This was reported by the ASTRA Telegram channel, according to Ukrinform.

As noted, the regional governor announced that four UAVs had been destroyed overnight in Novoshakhtinsk, Rostov region. According to him, there were no casualties or damage.

The official did not specify which object the drones attacked.

UKRINFORM
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 7:31 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:44 am to
We've Got Lee Bush, Stormy McCain, and GOPe Tiger all posting now.

All we are missing is a Dick Cheney account and we will really be war hawking.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:58 am to
The Live Fire Testing phase. MIC lobbying money going to good use. Where else can you get real world war testing vs a peer level military? So much ROI for your lobbying dollar!
The opportunity is endless!
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:06 am to
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The Live Fire Testing phase. MIC lobbying money going to good use. Where else can you get real world war testing vs a peer level military? So much ROI for your lobbying dollar!
The opportunity is endless!

This made me laugh, I won't pretend otherwise.

Ultimately, you can joke about ROI and MIC all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine.

Ukraine posed no genuine threat to Russia. Nobody was going to invade Russia, a country with 10k nuclear weapons. There was no imminent threat to Russian interests. They invaded a foreign country for no reason.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:27 am to
The Live Fire Testing phase. MIC lobbying money going to good use. Where else can you get real world war testing vs a peer level military? So much ROI for your lobbying dollar!
The opportunity is endless!


Now that's the spirit!
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:29 am to
That refinery was out of commission for two months in 2022 after a drone attack in June.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:39 am to
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Ultimately, you can joke about ROI and MIC all you want, it doesn't change the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine.

Ukraine posed no genuine threat to Russia. Nobody was going to invade Russia, a country with 10k nuclear weapons. There was no imminent threat to Russian interests. They invaded a foreign country for no reason.


Both can be, and are, true. Russia invading Ukraine gave the MIC something to extract value from.
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:41 am to
A sticky at the bottom of the 1st page…never seen that before

At least it’s not at the top anymore. Thanks admins
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:55 am to
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According to him, the UK plans to adopt the DragonFire laser weapon by 2027. At the same time, the country is considering sending prototypes of this weapon to Ukraine earlier, even if it is not 100% perfect.

Testing and practice make perfect.

Of course Russia could prevent deployment of this and all other weapons but just ending their invasion.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:11 am to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:28 am to
3 injured in Russian attack on Kostiantynivka in Donetsk Oblast

by Kateryna Denisova April 12, 2024 5:02 PM

Russian forces launched a missile attack on a residential area of Kostiantynivka in Donetsk Oblast, injuring at least three people, the State Emergency Service said on April 12.

One missile reportedly hit a five-story building in Kostiantynivka, a city located less than 15 kilometers from Russian positions, causing fire on the balconies from the second to the fifth floors.

This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 10:30 am
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:41 am to
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Both can be, and are, true. Russia invading Ukraine gave the MIC something to extract value from.


Retired tanks, fighting vehicles and other with old technology that no one in the MIC gives two shits about anymore?

Got it.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 10:49 am to
It's needed bc every time the news turns bad for Ukraine the chickenhawks scamper away and the thread languishes on page 2 or 3
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:12 am to
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According to him, the UK plans to adopt the DragonFire laser weapon by 2027. At the same time, the country is considering sending prototypes of this weapon to Ukraine earlier, even if it is not 100% perfect.


It's the ideal testing ground under real war conditions.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26948 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:15 am to
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Russian forces launched a missile attack on a residential area of Kostiantynivka in Donetsk Oblast,


It is foolish on the Russian's part to attack residences that play no part in the war rather than military targets.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5749 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:52 am to
Nova Group sets up new electricity generation company amid Russian attacks on infrastructure

by Kateryna Denisova April 12, 2024 6:26 PM

Nova Group has set up a company that will generate energy on a regular basis, including both solar and gas power, the group's co-owner Volodymyr Popereshniuk announced on April 12.

The newly-created Nova Energy is the seventh company to join Nova Group, which owns Nova Poshta, Ukraine's leading postal service.

"When the Russians started to attack electricity generation, we realized that we needed to strengthen the autonomy of energy supply," Popereshniuk wrote on Facebook.

Popereshniuk hopes that other companies will also enter the electricity generation market.

"If regulations and prohibitions do not interfere, entrepreneurs will quickly create the capacities needed for the economy," he added.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45745 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:57 am to
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Considering how other Muslims chant shite like "river to the sea" for decades, I don't get how Chechens, who were tore up from the floor up by the Russians 20 years ago, just decide they're going to actively help the regime.


Money talks. Putin paid off the Chechen leaders (aka warlords) who lived. Those leaders control the Chechen populace using methods that are legal and illegal under the laws of Russia and Allah.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 11:59 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8443 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 11:58 am to
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Retired tanks, fighting vehicles and other with old technology that no one in the MIC gives two shits about anymore?

Got it.


Northrop Grumman up about $100 a share since November-ish 2022 when it became apparent the conflict was brewing.

Lockheed Martin $110 per

General Dynamics almost $90 per

S&P 500 up about 10% in that timeframe vs 25%-ish for the examples I gave

When we give away our old shite what do you think we do for our own military, exactly? Just not replace it?
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