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re: Why did 47 cave on this war with Iran?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:14 pm to Speckhunter2012
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:14 pm to Speckhunter2012
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He knows what he is doing. And if they don't play nice, they will be annihilated.
They will play nice until hes gone in 2 years, and a soft skinned liberal is back in power.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:16 pm to sidewalkside
Unfortunately leaders have to know when to pull back and correct course. They don't all get the privilege of jumping back and forth every time their panties get all wadded up
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:18 pm to sidewalkside
He thought he could bomb them into submission, he was wrong, he caved because he wasnt going to send troops in for 10 years to try and win. you can argue how good or bad his moves are leading up to that, but not sending troops in is probably not something many will disagree with
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:19 pm to Riverside
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The objective was to keep Iran from obtaining a nuke. Iran has agreed to this. What more do you want?
Oh so you were a fan of the Obama Iran deal.
Good grief this country is eaten up with hypocrisy.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:41 pm to FLTech
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Trump obliterated the Iranian nuclear program, they’ve just promised to never pursue nuclear weapons and to hand over their already-enriched nuclear material.
I thought we did that during Midnight Hammer but if we further degraded that capability thats a plus. They have never said they were pursuing nuclear weapons. The Iranian president made that clear a year ago. What is their word worth?
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Trump sank the entire Iranian navy and blew up over 750 of Iran’s top military and political leaders.
Thier Navy and Airforce was never a threat to the region. Its yet to be seen how the decimation of their military and political leadership will effect the current state of affairs but they effectively shut down rhe SoH , maintained the ability to strike with precision at US forces, our partners in the region and Israel.
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The Arab Gulf nations were growing increasingly concerned about the Iranian regime and wanted us to help do something about
And now they know we cant protect them. Look for.them to.arm.to the teeth, create more robust mutual defence pacts and harden infrastructure as the threat from Iran's missle and drone force is still mostly in tact.
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just saw how difficult this conflict was from a military logistics standpoint -- now imagine an Iranian regime with another couple years worth of preparation – big problem.
It was already a big problem that the Trump administration under estimated and over estimated how effectively we.could deal with it. And if you want to argue that the damage we caused...and we did cause some damage, makes it all worth it....fine. But acting like we really eliminated the threat or that this deal.offers long term.security to the region is laughable
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:44 pm to FLTech
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Why not? Can you explain how he lost this "war?"
To win the "war" the outcome has to be significantly better than the JCPOA. When Trump broke the JCPOA, he bought it. We have sunk costs now for the replacement of the JCPOA. The costs, in part, are near $100 billion in taxpayer dollars, 14 lives, hundreds of injuries, a stunted economy, and we are facilitating $300 billion going into Iran. While the final agreement, particularly the nuclear weapons portion, is kicked down the road for 60 days, those provisions will have to be significantly better than the JCPOA to warrant the costs. Every day closer to the midterms, we get Iran's leverage slowly ratchets up. There is nothing at all we can point to as a win as of yet. It is arguable that if you aren't winning, you are losing. Right now, we have nothing to be happy about. That could change, but there is no indication that it will substantially.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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It sets no geographical or temporal regulations.
Ok, so now you're being deceptively obtuse. In short, same as you ever were. You guys are out in mass throwing anything you can like flak trying to prevent the bombing of your talking point narrative.
Time is not on your side, your masks are melting and support dwindling at home and abroad. The People are waking up and you and your elk are growing more and more desperate.
Sure you still have the media shills, but they are becoming obsolete, ridiculed and despised. It's coming Slow, buckle up, the passion of the People is growing. The end is closer than you think.
And you thought we were alone, we are not.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:19 am to Henry Jones Jr
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And you believe them?
So what’s the solution here? Should we just kill them all? It’s not like Iran stole our nuclear secrets for their benefit then sold it to our number one enemy. Israel did though.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:35 am to sidewalkside
I pray Israel does the right thing and takes out the irgc
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:31 am to FLTech
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Are you upset that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon?
Laughable- they will continue to develop weapons
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Are you upset that Iran's proxy terrorist cells are now dismantled?
They are not dismantled Hezbollah and Hamas still exist and will continues to thrive
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Oh, I bet you are upset about Iran's entire military is gone.. I bet that's the one
It’s not gone. Iran’s conventional military was never a threat. The IRGC is still in control. The ayatollahs are still there They still have the ability to wage war and could shut the Strait again tomorrow if they chose.
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Or it it could be that you are upset that Iran can never build missiles or drone bombs again? I bet that's the one!? Yup, that's probably the one
They can and they will.
quote]re you upset that Trump got his nuclear dust that he needed to put a lot of people in prison?[/quote]
Wut?
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Are you upset that the Gulf States on the region have agreed to $300 billion in investment IF Iran proves that they are playing by the rules?
Why give them anything? Obama already tried this and we saw what happened. That $300 bn will go to their military directly or indirectly.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:41 am to ninthward
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I pray Israel does the right thing and takes out the irgc
You people are so retarded.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:01 am to sidewalkside
Because he does not view things like most normal people. Everything in his world is:
1. How can I gain from this financially or gain power
2. How can I get honored by this or gain some type of esteem.
Anything that he has done good for this country ( immigration, etc), is just a by-product of the first two points. The Iran war cannot fulfill either of the first two pints, so this was always going to be a loser for him.
1. How can I gain from this financially or gain power
2. How can I get honored by this or gain some type of esteem.
Anything that he has done good for this country ( immigration, etc), is just a by-product of the first two points. The Iran war cannot fulfill either of the first two pints, so this was always going to be a loser for him.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:05 am to RiverCityTider
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Because he realized that BiBi and the neocons f'ed him. He realized it and now he just wants out. And he is never going back in. Ever. And that is the smartest thing to do. Time heals all wounds. Focus on the economy and tell BIBI and his warhawks to pound
What - how much do you want to bet that nation building in Cuba is very much next on the agenda?
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 5:06 am
Posted on 6/18/26 at 6:04 am to sidewalkside
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sidewalkside
Why did you smoke so many poles today?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:41 am to Riverside
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The objective was to keep Iran from obtaining a nuke. Iran has agreed to this. What more do you want?
lol sure jan
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:49 am to March1st
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Ok, so now you're being deceptively obtuse
No. There was a specific claim made. I asked for support. The attempted support in no way supported the specific claim. I point this out. You call me "obtuse"
and then do this
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Time is not on your side, your masks are melting and support dwindling at home and abroad. The People are waking up and you and your elk are growing more and more desperate.
Sure you still have the media shills, but they are becoming obsolete, ridiculed and despised. It's coming Slow, buckle up, the passion of the People is growing. The end is closer than you think.
And you thought we were alone, we are not.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Originally it was to note "S" to mark my threads.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:54 am to FLTech
At least half of these bros were dying naturally in the next 5 years anyway.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 7:55 am to Riverside
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The objective was to keep Iran from obtaining a nuke. Iran has agreed to this. What more do you want?
They havent achieved anything but literally paying the Iranians to agree to talk to them for a fixed amount of time.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 7:56 am
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