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We’ve spent less on the Ukraine War over the last 4-5 years than the rumored $200B request the DoW has asked Congress for to continue fighting Iran
That logic only works if you ignore that peace often prevents war in the first place. War doesn’t reliably create order—it just as often creates chaos that lasts longer than the conflict itself. Comparing nations to children isn’t insight, it’s oversimplification. Treating war like a tool for peace is exactly how you guarantee more of it.

When has war in the Middle East ever led to more peace? It’s been at least 60 years since you can point to a concrete example
This is way too long. The biggest issue is this administration has to get the 10Y under control or it’s going to mutually take down our economy along with all of the other damage this war is causing. It’s moved 50 bps in a month and if it continues it’s going to continue to reek havoc on the global financial markets
We’ve gotten a ton of benefit by neutering the Russian military from the $185B-ish we spent on the War in the Ukraine since it started.
Honestly the best off ramp would be something along the lines of “I want to continue the war but Congress refuses to fund it.” Thus if Iran spirals into a mess can can blame it on the Congress.
If “blessed are the peacemakers” is the standard, then escalating another war isn’t strength—it’s a failure to meet it. You don’t honor hostages coming home by creating more families who never will. Claiming moral clarity while funding more destruction rings hollow against the very words being praised. At some point, you either believe in peace—or you just quote it.
If the administration is unable to secure additional funding from Congress for the ongoing war in Iran, what do you think happens next?

Not asking what should happen—but what actually would happen in practice. Does the conflict wind down due to lack of funding, continue under existing defense budgets or emergency powers, or escalate into a constitutional showdown between the executive branch and Congress?

Curious how people see this playing out politically, militarily, and economically.
Including the $11T+ of value wiped out of the equity markets?
Trump has repeatedly backed tariffs, trade wars, and even the idea of the government taking equity stakes in corporations—policies that distort markets, raise consumer prices, and expand state control in ways that run counter to free-market principles. He has also used tariffs and regulatory leverage to pressure companies and CEOs, including influencing M&A activity, calling for executives to resign, shaping corporate behavior and speech, and threatening or filing lawsuits against companies that have disagreed with him. Alongside support for expanded executive power and restrictions on immigration and labor mobility, these actions conflict with the libertarian emphasis on limited government, voluntary exchange, and free corporate speech.
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Yeah. Innocent until proven guilty. When he hurts you prove your case Until then. Who gives a frick. Did he roll his car over your car? No? Stfu. Some of yall are bitches and making it hard to live free

Aren’t you presumed guilty if you refuse the DUI tests?
If only they had a way to get themselves out of this self-inflicted situation

re: Trump screwed the Republicans over

Posted by IMSA_Fan on 3/27/26 at 10:04 pm to
I mean I was like 11 when those wars broke out. I used the Bush wars because there aren’t many other parallels to compare to
Economically he’s been very anti-free market as well

re: Trump screwed the Republicans over

Posted by IMSA_Fan on 3/27/26 at 10:00 pm to
The Democrats path to the senate is hold GA, NH and MI then win 4 of NC, ME, AK, OH and TX. The betting markets currently have the odds at 50-50.
People also cheered when the guy on the stage suggested impeaching Trump today at CPAC
Do libertarians still support Trump? I feel like his agenda couldn’t be much more anti-libertarian than it currently is

re: Trump screwed the Republicans over

Posted by IMSA_Fan on 3/27/26 at 9:53 pm to
I mean if the cost of oil continues to shoot up and causes a massive wave of inflation that causes significant affordability issues and erodes trillions of dollars in equity market value - that’s very much on Trump
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It’s really no different from what we always seen. Republicans supported war during the Bush years as they do now. Democrats supported any war when their people were in power. Our country is full of dumbfrick “my party first” people.

Bush had Democratic support/votes for both of his wars. Trump has essentially zero support from democrats and like 20% support from Indies in this conflict. He’s also lost major pieces of the MAGA media / podcasters that appealed to his coalition with this war
That would likely knock the entire global economy back to the Stone Age as energy markets would totally collapse
The crazy thing to me, is he was really the only person in the higher levels of government that wanted this war across the whole political spectrum. Yes, a lot of MAGA voters flipped views and have his back, but if you asked that group in the going into the 2024 election the story would have been really different