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re: Why did 47 cave on this war with Iran?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:37 pm to sidewalkside
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:37 pm to sidewalkside
Can you make us a list of exactly what you don't like about the deal?
Are you upset that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon?
Are you upset that Iran's proxy terrorist cells are now dismantled?
Oh, I bet you are upset about Iran's entire military is gone.. I bet that's the one
Or it it could be that you are upset that Iran can never build missiles or drone bombs again? I bet that's the one!? Yup, that's probably the one
Are you upset that Trump got his nuclear dust that he needed to put a lot of people in prison?
Are you upset that the Gulf States on the region have agreed to $300 billion in investment IF Iran proves that they are playing by the rules?
What are are other things that you are upset about with this agreement?
Are you upset that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon?
Are you upset that Iran's proxy terrorist cells are now dismantled?
Oh, I bet you are upset about Iran's entire military is gone.. I bet that's the one
Or it it could be that you are upset that Iran can never build missiles or drone bombs again? I bet that's the one!? Yup, that's probably the one
Are you upset that Trump got his nuclear dust that he needed to put a lot of people in prison?
Are you upset that the Gulf States on the region have agreed to $300 billion in investment IF Iran proves that they are playing by the rules?
What are are other things that you are upset about with this agreement?
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:38 pm to FLTech
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Are you upset that Trump got his nuclear dust that he needed to put a lot of people in prison?
Where was this agreed to?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:51 pm to sidewalkside
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The midterms????
That appears to be the most likely scenario, based on what we know about the deal. He knows if the dems win he's going to get absolutely cucked and impeached again and it will be nothing but 2 years of investigations into his administration. It seems like he wants to give the republicans a fighting chance, so he's giving Iran everything they want to open up the big bend of Hormuz and lower energy prices to sway the voters but the damage may already be done, we will see in november.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:51 pm to FLTech
So you can't cite that in any agreement?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:52 pm to Speckhunter2012
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And if they don't play nice, they will be annihilated
Requires boots on the ground.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I slummed it at LSU on scholarship.
Why do you have a Stanford icon?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
I haven't seen the agreement because the agreement was supposed to be released on Friday
However, it appears they released some of it to the media
LINK
However, it appears they released some of it to the media
LINK
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:00 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I don’t like how this has ended but it’s a hell of a lot better than getting involved in another Iraq situation
This is a good thing for the troops but that's what they're there for. Don't start a war if you don't have the will to finish it. This was not a win for Trump.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:01 pm to FLTech
All good news but we could have changed world history. As usual and like every other President before him, Trump has simply kicked the can down the road.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:01 pm to theballguy
Why not? Can you explain how he lost this "war?"
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:03 pm to sidewalkside
Trump bent the knee to the Mullahs….
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Either you didn't read it or your reading comprehension is lacking. Of course you could just be trying to be slick/deceptive/evil or have full blown TDS.
Do you get paid to be so daft on this site?
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with the minimum methodology to be down blended on site under the supervision of the IAEA.
Do you get paid to be so daft on this site?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:07 pm to FLTech
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Oh, I bet you are upset about Iran's entire military is gone.. I bet that's the one
Or it it could be that you are upset that Iran can never build missiles or drone bombs again? I bet that's the one!? Yup, that's probably the one
Are you upset that Trump got his nuclear dust
[/url][/img] Irans entire military isnt gone. The IRGC is still running the country. They still have a rather large arsenal of ballistic missiles and drones capable of devastating the region that we couldnt take out ([one of the main reasons for the ceasefire and stalemate) and its un clear how we will deal with the enriched uranium stock pile but Trump at the G7 just said "its not very valuable....you could make the case why even bother but I think psychologically we want ro get it" Take what you will from those statements.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:08 pm to sidewalkside
Because he is a lightweight and a coward.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:10 pm to March1st
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Either you didn't read it or your reading comprehension is lacking. Of course you could just be trying to be slick/deceptive/evil or have full blown TDS.
That does not say
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whenever and wherever we want.
It just says under the supervision of the IAEA. It sets no geographical or temporal regulations.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:11 pm to Flats
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Why do you have a Stanford icon?
Originally it was to note "S" to mark my threads.
A visual cue for fast review.
This was before anyone else used it and before the green MSU S
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:12 pm to sidewalkside
We were promised that this would cause World War 3 – it didn’t.
We were promised that this would cause the War on Terror 2.0 – it didn’t.
We were promised a boots-on-the-ground invasion of Iran – it never happened.
We were promised that every 18+ American man would get drafted to go “die for Israel” – it never happened.
We were promised an all-out nuclear exchange in the Middle East – it never happened.
We were promised a flood of 100 million Middle Eastern refugees – it never happened.
We were promised $200 barrels of crude oil and $10 gallons of gas – it never happened.
Not a single one of these predictions came true. No, HERE is what happened:
Trump obliterated the Iranian nuclear program, they’ve just promised to never pursue nuclear weapons and to hand over their already-enriched nuclear material.
Trump dropped over 15,000 bombs on Iran and caused over $1 TRILLION worth of damage.
Trump sank the entire Iranian navy and blew up over 750 of Iran’s top military and political leaders.
And he accomplished all of this in less than 3 months.
Do you think that any of these doomsayers will have the humility to acknowledge that they were WRONG about literally EVERYTHING?
-1) The U.S. has defense agreements with the Arab Gulf nations — we secure their position in the Middle East, and they predominantly sell their oil in USD. This relationship is actually the backbone of the U.S. petrodollar system and reinforces the U.S. dollar’s position as the world’s reserve currency. The Arab Gulf nations were growing increasingly concerned about the Iranian regime and wanted us to help do something about it.
-2) In November 2025, the Trump Administration explicitly stated that its long-term objective in the Middle East is to draw down U.S. presence in the region and ultimately hand over operational control to our regional allies. The goal is to refocus on the Western Hemisphere and the Pacific, because the Trump Administration views the CCP as our #1 geopolitical rival. However, for this to happen, the Iranian regime’s capacity to project power and destabilize the Middle East must be destroyed.
-3) The Iranian regime is effectively a proxy force of the CCP. The CCP has played a very important role in kick-starting Iran’s ballistic missile program, drone program, and nuclear program. It has also been financing the Iranian regime by purchasing its internationally sanctioned black-market crude oil. China has been leveraging the Iranian regime to destabilize the Middle East, thereby bogging down and distracting the U.S. while the CCP expands across the Pacific and into the Western Hemisphere (Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, Cuba, Panama, Brazil, Canada, etc.). This is classic asymmetric warfare, and the CCP has been practicing it for decades.
-4) The notion that we’ve heard from the Trump Administration that the Iranian regime was on the cusp of becoming so entrenched, and so bunkered-in, and so well-armed that we’d be unable to conduct an operation like this at some point in the future should they decide to further ramp-up regional aggression is perfectly sensible. We all just saw how difficult this conflict was from a military logistics standpoint -- now imagine an Iranian regime with another couple years worth of preparation – big problem.
-5) Trump still has ambitions to help end the war in Eastern Europe, and the Iranian regime has been propping up the Russian war effort for over four years now. In fact, at this point the Russians have fired over 7,000 Iranian-made Shahed drones into Ukraine, along with all their other economic and military interrelations.
We were promised that this would cause the War on Terror 2.0 – it didn’t.
We were promised a boots-on-the-ground invasion of Iran – it never happened.
We were promised that every 18+ American man would get drafted to go “die for Israel” – it never happened.
We were promised an all-out nuclear exchange in the Middle East – it never happened.
We were promised a flood of 100 million Middle Eastern refugees – it never happened.
We were promised $200 barrels of crude oil and $10 gallons of gas – it never happened.
Not a single one of these predictions came true. No, HERE is what happened:
Trump obliterated the Iranian nuclear program, they’ve just promised to never pursue nuclear weapons and to hand over their already-enriched nuclear material.
Trump dropped over 15,000 bombs on Iran and caused over $1 TRILLION worth of damage.
Trump sank the entire Iranian navy and blew up over 750 of Iran’s top military and political leaders.
And he accomplished all of this in less than 3 months.
Do you think that any of these doomsayers will have the humility to acknowledge that they were WRONG about literally EVERYTHING?
-1) The U.S. has defense agreements with the Arab Gulf nations — we secure their position in the Middle East, and they predominantly sell their oil in USD. This relationship is actually the backbone of the U.S. petrodollar system and reinforces the U.S. dollar’s position as the world’s reserve currency. The Arab Gulf nations were growing increasingly concerned about the Iranian regime and wanted us to help do something about it.
-2) In November 2025, the Trump Administration explicitly stated that its long-term objective in the Middle East is to draw down U.S. presence in the region and ultimately hand over operational control to our regional allies. The goal is to refocus on the Western Hemisphere and the Pacific, because the Trump Administration views the CCP as our #1 geopolitical rival. However, for this to happen, the Iranian regime’s capacity to project power and destabilize the Middle East must be destroyed.
-3) The Iranian regime is effectively a proxy force of the CCP. The CCP has played a very important role in kick-starting Iran’s ballistic missile program, drone program, and nuclear program. It has also been financing the Iranian regime by purchasing its internationally sanctioned black-market crude oil. China has been leveraging the Iranian regime to destabilize the Middle East, thereby bogging down and distracting the U.S. while the CCP expands across the Pacific and into the Western Hemisphere (Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, Cuba, Panama, Brazil, Canada, etc.). This is classic asymmetric warfare, and the CCP has been practicing it for decades.
-4) The notion that we’ve heard from the Trump Administration that the Iranian regime was on the cusp of becoming so entrenched, and so bunkered-in, and so well-armed that we’d be unable to conduct an operation like this at some point in the future should they decide to further ramp-up regional aggression is perfectly sensible. We all just saw how difficult this conflict was from a military logistics standpoint -- now imagine an Iranian regime with another couple years worth of preparation – big problem.
-5) Trump still has ambitions to help end the war in Eastern Europe, and the Iranian regime has been propping up the Russian war effort for over four years now. In fact, at this point the Russians have fired over 7,000 Iranian-made Shahed drones into Ukraine, along with all their other economic and military interrelations.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:12 pm to FLTech
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Unless NY Times who hates Trump is lying
LINK
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U.S. officials said that the proposal did not settle the issue of precisely how Iran would give up its stockpile, putting off the details for a coming round of talks on Iran’s nuclear program.
Also
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May 23, 2026
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:12 pm to FLTech
quote:
We were promised that this would cause World War 3 – it didn’t.
We were promised that this would cause the War on Terror 2.0 – it didn’t.
We were promised a boots-on-the-ground invasion of Iran – it never happened.
We were promised that every 18+ American man would get drafted to go “die for Israel” – it never happened.
We were promised an all-out nuclear exchange in the Middle East – it never happened.
We were promised a flood of 100 million Middle Eastern refugees – it never happened.
We were promised $200 barrels of crude oil and $10 gallons of gas – it never happened.
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