re: Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

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Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

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This is an idiotic question by an idiotic poster, who is not an adult, and does not have the ability to critically think...aka a Bernie supporter. But i'll indulge your idiocy.

1) What is the military budget for these first world countries compared to ours?
2) What is the racial diversity percentages of these countries compared to the US?
3) What is the population of these countries compared to the US?
4) What is the effective tax rate of these countries compared to ours?
5) What additional expenses does the US pay for, that these "first world countries" do not?
6) What is the cost of living in our country vs. these other countries?

You've never thought to ask any of these questions. You just hear "healthcare for all", but you never thought about anything other than "that sounds great, we should do it".

A) Conservative estimates of Bernie's healthcare for all plan is $25 trillion. US GDP (Gross Domestic Product) was $21 trillion last year. And because i know you don't understand what GDP is, GDP is defined as "Gross domestic product is a monetary measure of the market value of all the final goods and services produced in a specific time period."

B) What you and Bernie want is not healthcare. It is health insurance. But health insurance for all isn't as sexy as health care. So what you really want is blanket, single payer health insurance, and in order for it to "work", you will have to ban private insurance. What are you going to do with the hundreds of thousands that work in the health insurance industry and the thousands of other ancillary (google it, i know you don't know what that means) businesses that are employed due to the health insurance industry?
ETA: and before you say, well those that worked in private insurance will work in the government insurance. Well that may be true. But guess what? That means that insurance costs will not change. Why? Because not only are you adding everyone's health costs to the federal budget, but you are now adding every single Government Insurance employee to the federal budget. So all of your costs are transferred to the federal government, and you'll have to at least double the amount of workers to manage America's population on federal insurance. And you think that is a good idea?

C) Doctors are not your slaves. In order for there to be "healthcare for all" then doctors will not be allowed to refuse patients. I mean, if "healthcare" is a right, then any dr. refusing to treat a patient for any # of reasons, can then be sued/fined/imprisoned for denying you a human right. So in effect, the healthcare industry becomes a slave industry. I shouldn't have to tell you how bad slavery is, but i'm sure your response is "well if they deny healthcare, they should go to prison". Reason #1000 why you are not a serious person.

D) Denmark (your first world country) military expenditures are roughly $5 billion/year (1.4% of Denmark's GDP). US's military budget was $693 billion or 3.2% of GDP. I'm sure your response is "well just cut the military". Sorry, but one of the only jobs the US Government has is national defense. Being the Alpha in the world means you are also the target, and also means, you defend the little guys that can't defend themselves. An alpha male is the male who is in charge and is the highest ranking individual in a room. Bernie supporters are not Alpha so i know you don't know what that means either.

E) Implementation - We already have socialized medicine in this country in the form of medicare/medicaid. The intended purpose was to help those that physically couldn't help themselves, but like all government programs, it was seriously abused and has never been fixed. Then we had Obamacare come along that was an unmitigated disaster from the beginning. 1) healthcare costs skyrocketed. 2) The sign up website didn't work for months at a time. The government you want controlling America's healthcare can't even run a website. 3) It was filled with broken promises. 4) It unfairly taxed specific industries to help cover the cost. 5) It applied grossly overreaching requirements that everyone must have insurance, even if you couldn't afford it. 6) It failed stupendously, as it should have.

F) Government efficiency - You want the same government that lost $4 billion during the Obamacare rollout, to manage $25 trillion? Are you stupid? Serious question. The government has NEVER been efficient in anything they did. It's why we are running billion dollar deficits every single year. When you lose $4 billion without blinking an eye and you have no explanation and you are not held accountable for it, what do you think will happen with a $25 trillion + system? Who is the government accountable to?

G) The government will tell you what medicine you will take. If you ever had to deal with prescriptions and trying to get your insurance to cover it, how bad do you think it will be with Berniecare? And before you say "that's a private insurance problem" it actually isn't. When Obamacare went into effect, it mandated certain prescription drugs to be covered by insurance and others, not. Why? Cost. My wife (that's a woman you marry because you love her, since you don't know what that is) spent weeks trying to get her prescriptions covered by insurance to be told that federal law will not allow our insurance to cover it. First she has to try 3 different scripts. Even with multiple notes from her doctor saying she has to take x prescription and x prescription alone, they still didn't comply. Imagine the complete dysfunction of the incompetent federal government managing prescriptions for 300 million + people... Insane.

H) Wait times - All of your first world countries have horrendous wait times. UK, the shining beacon that the left try to use all the time as an example, has wait times that go on for months. Take for example, having to see a specialist, like an endocrinologist. The best one in baton rouge schedules appointments 6 months in advance. Even if it is urgent, the likelihood of being seen in less than a month is near zero. And that's with private insurance. Now imagine you have the flu, or some sort of infection, and your wait time is 3 weeks -2 months (average wait time in the UK). Do you think that is what people want?

I) Specialization - Why do you think so many people fly to the US to have procedures? Because a) we have the best healthcare in the world and B) because we have the most qualified practicing specialists in the world and c) we are the most medically innovative country in the world. But once you start enslaving these professionals...what happens? Do you think these professionals are going to continue to excel if there is no benefit to themselves?

J) The problem is inherit in socialism. That's right, the biggest problem of your socialist goals is...being humans. The only way socialism works, is if you remove the human element. People will not want to achieve above and beyond, if there is no benefit in doing so. So while you think you are being kind by enslaving the medical profession for your socialist needs on the basis of "good intentions" you are simply crushing innovation and further destroying the medical industry of the country.

So again, in short. You are a silly person. You are not a serious person. You've never thought past the point of "yeah, free stuff is great". You are a child, and should not be making adult decisions.

I love you too

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Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?

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Why is this the only topic you guys talk about, seriously, the only time I have ever worried about healthcare is after Obama drove my costs through the roof,

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I figured as much. And it's fine with me that my opinion is in the minority on that among conservatives. I don't have to worry about it anyways because the Government already does provide me my healthcare.

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I’m actually in agreement with you. However, I wouldn’t want universal coverage to be instituted, though the government would try its best to get as much control as possible. Furthermore, healthcare through the government is just too damn expensive for taxpayers.

I think the ability to go to get things like broken bones or asthma medication probably wouldn’t be that bad, but people shouldn’t be paying for a liver transplant for an alcoholic, or heart surgery for an obese person. Maybe government subsidized healthcare shouldn’t even include surgery as an option at all.

The legislation for it would have to be rock solid for me to be for it, and I can never see that happening. At least in the state of our current government.

Because we pay for their protection.

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Why can every other first world country have healthCOVERAGE for all?

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Because they don't want to have the best healthCARE in the world like America does.

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the list of federal agencies and we should disband damn near every one of them. Nearly every other "social program" we have is illegitimate.

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Why are they illegitimate?

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Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all? by SiloamHog
Asking for a friend...

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Why did Mick Jagger not have his heart valve repaired in the UK instead of New York?

And why, according toThe Fraser Institute, a Canadian public policy think tank, did 52,513 Canadians come to the US for non-emergency care in 2014? It’s “free” there. Why come here and pay out of pocket for it?

Why do the people who sing the praises of government controlled health care fight to be excluded from the rules of it?

Google how long it takes to get a government approved/paid CT or MRI in Canada.

Why do y’all feed this troll?