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re: Who started the war in Ukraine? President Trump knows the details. Will release them.

Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:24 am to
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:24 am to
Exactly. Trump even cooperated to turn the deviant in.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:24 am to
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Putting America first.


Ukraine isn’t America. You’re finally learning. Good job
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:25 am to


Look at all the whining from the "echo chamber".

You people live in a fantasy world.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:25 am to
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Just like we shouldn't care about the Iranians



We would probably care more about Ukraine if by luck of geography it was located right at the choke point of the world’s oil supply.

Each one has its own unique cost/benefit analysis because they aren’t the same.

Posted by FLTech
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:26 am to
Trump released 3.5 MILLION more Epstein files than all president combined released

Did you not read all of the files that were released?
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:29 am to
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I don’t think Trump has the balls to permanently do this (and the CIA won’t let him), but they went nuts when their intel/satellites got cut for a day or two.

I agree.

But I also think Trump DNGAF anymore.

But this will probably settle down. Remember it wasn’t that long ago that Trump and Vance bitch slapped Zelensky around in the Oval Office when he got mouthy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:29 am to
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In terms of facts, though, I thought it was accepted that Russia invaded Ukraine.
It is also accepted that there were long-standing causative reasons for the Russian action.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:30 am to
who started the war in Ukraine...........Hunter Biden, he did not get paid millions for his oil company experience. He did not get paid for his painting skills. He got paid agitating Russia.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:31 am to
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Just like he’d release the Epstein files
They were released to Congress. Massie et al could have leaked anything in them. They balked.
This post was edited on 10/17/26 at 9:42 am
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:37 am to
Putin has delusions that he is the second coming of Peter the Great. He has done massive harm to his own nation when it could have been a very successful gas station.

Ukraine wanted no part of Russia. The want to be part of the EU where they see success and prosperity in their future.

Ukraine has great historical animosity against Russia from the millions Stalin murdered and starved to death in the 1930's and long before that when Moscow's princes betrayed them to the Mongols.



Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:39 am to
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Trump released 3.5 MILLION more Epstein files than all president combined released

Did you not read all of the files that were released?


Why is this sender's name redacted?

Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 8:45 am to
Bill Clinton
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:07 am to
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Bill Clinton


I agree with you. Victoria Nuland really sealed the deal under Obama.

If that's what Trump is referring to, I wish he would just say that: "Given the Neocon meddling it's understandable that Russia is concerned about Ukraine for security purposes. Ending the war, recognizing Russia's territorial claims according to the current battle lines is equitable...and probably the only solution possible for the foreseeable future. If Ukraine doesn't accept that solution, the US will withdraw all support including intelligence sharing."

Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:07 am to
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Ukraine isn’t America. You’re finally learning. Good job


Russia isn’t America either.
Putin isn’t Ronald Reagan.
Trump is getting old on the job.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:10 am to
I’m putting my money on a deep state leftist operation for Ukraine to start the war, make it look like Putin did it, so we could flow hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine that could be laundered back into democrat coffers here in the US.

In other words, dem fundraising.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
173115 posts
Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:13 am to
At some point releasing the details may be too late. Zelenskys'entire cabinet has resigned been jailed or something.

Can we end this sick show already?
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
18167 posts
Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:18 am to
I get the issues people and Trump have with Ukraine, I really do. But for the life of me, I just don’t understand why Putin is the one guy that Trump just will not go against in anything.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
13146 posts
Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:19 am to
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Can we end this sick show already?


I don't think so. We CAN completely divorce ourselves from any involvement, including intelligence sharing and sanctions on Russia.

Personally, I'm in favor of that. If the Europeans want to support Ukraine's (completely righteous) fight against Russia, let them do it.
Posted by Gunny Hartman
Member since Jan 2021
1540 posts
Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:20 am to
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Just like we shouldn't care about the Iranians


Just like we shouldn't care about insane Islamists who sponsor terrorism against US interests around the globe and were building nukes to blackmail the west?! I can see the compelling parallels...
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
61128 posts
Posted on 10/17/26 at 9:23 am to
Zelensky started the war and made christianity illegal at the same time with the express purpose of ethnic cleansing the native Ukrainian population


He’s bibi’s cousin
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