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re: Trump and the Strait success.

Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:04 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:04 am to
Gasoline is not a huge issue. We are on the verge of a diesel and jet fuel crisis. Also, a lot of fertilizer comes from that area. Food supply will be adversely affected.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 1:14 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:06 am to
Right. China cut their imports in half. Also, I believe the SPR is the lowest level in 40 years.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:08 am to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 2:10 am to
It’s uncanny how pert near every single one of your posts has a negative slant towards Trump. Mere coincidence, I’m sure, yet still uncanny. Because I know how you seem to view yourself as a levelheaded and independent kinda guy. But again, I’m sure it’s just coincidence.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15949 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:25 am to
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I paid $3.15 a gallon at Bucc-ees on my way home from Orange Beach today. People claiming outrageous gas prices are lying to themselves.


Gas prices are $4.45-$4.49 around me. It's not a lie.


This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 4:30 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:35 am to
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We just have pussies who can’t help but cry about the price of gas


Well, contrary to what you may believe, gas prices affect some poors more than others.

No reason to continually dump on them for it. HAHA poor people are such pussies!! Figured you’d be above that tact.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15949 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:42 am to
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No reason to continually dump on them for it. HAHA poor people are such pussies!! Figured you’d be above that tact.


He's not and it's his shitty attempt to move the goal posts now that our dear beloved leader can't do what he said he was going to do.

Luckily I can afford $4.50 gas prices but you can't argue is not outrageous. Same when prices were high under Biden
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 4:46 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13784 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:27 am to
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China can’t keep this up forever

Been hearing this exact thing for 10 years on several different issues and China hasn’t stopped.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
13784 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 5:36 am to
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Trump himself is now telling Americans to accept higher gas prices as the cost of the Iran war.

They have to believe what Trump tells them to. They have no other options at this point. It’s what cultists do.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5087 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:18 am to
You’re still trying to make oil prices prove something they don’t prove bubba.

If killing Iranian leaders and wrecking their nuclear program is what you’re calling a success, fine. Make that argument.
But your oil argument doesn’t hold up. Your own July number was $83.76. Brent was about $88.52 yesterday and climbed roughly 6% this week.

Oil prices move on demand, inventories, production, spare capacity and supply disruptions. Hormuz matters, but that ain’t the only hand on the wheel. And countries can’t just reroute everything around it. There isn’t enough bypass capacity.

So call the military outcome a success if you want. Just don’t point to an oil price, ignore everything else moving that price, and pretend it proves your case. That dog won’t hunt baw.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
987 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:30 am to
Sky screamers are having a bad time lately.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:31 am to
What are the gas prices in China now compared to when the war started?
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:36 am to
And let’s not forget there are states in this country that are gouging their residents at the pump by $1.50-$2.00 per gallon through state taxes and environmental regulations in an active attempt to discourage gasoline consumption to push “clean” energy.

I hope nobody in these states is complaining about a price increase due to the Iran war when they voted for artificial gasoline price hikes.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13940 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:36 am to
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You thought he would just snap his fingers and make that happen. Not that action would have to be taken.


Thats called child like ignorance


No..I call it child like campaigning

Like any politician, he panders to his base. Lots of whom heard him promise to lower energy costs by 30 to 50%.

Instead he started a war in the Middle East that raised prices 30%.

I believe politicians should be held accountable to their promises. If he wasn't going to lower energy costs, he shouldn't have told the American people to hold him accountable for it.

Accountability and integrity are actually hallmarks of emotional maturity. The exact opposite of "child like ignorance" that you ascribe.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44965 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:37 am to
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With the Strait closed.


Now do fertilizer prices.

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With Iran's leaders (50 plus) dead.


Political assignations in an undeclared war. Please explain how this will stabilize the region or our relations there.

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With their nuke program in shambles.


We’ve heard this before. If this is true, why are we still at war? Also, how would a nuclear capable Iran be any different from a nuclear capable Israel, Pakistan, or India?

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With them not being able to export nearly as much.


How is this good? Impoverishing an entire nation seems to be a good way to breed some radicals.

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With them increasingly not able to finance their terror groups in the region.


Ever notice how groups fighting American expansion are terror groups and the ones fighting for American expansion are freedom fighters? Weird how that works.



Trump and Vance explicitly campaigned against more ME follies and yet here we are: in an undeclared war that will never end, runaway inflation, and what seems to be hapless leadership.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70957 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:39 am to
Drop Site has been posting the Kpler numbers. If the administration is secretly getting dozens of more ships through per day, credit to them.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 6:40 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
86225 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:43 am to
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People claiming outrageous gas prices are lying to themselves.


50% more than it was prior to Bush's, I mean Trump's escapades into Iran isn't outrageous?

Gas around Houston was 2.15 for regular Jan/Feb. Its now been above 3.25 for the past 6 months, hitting as high as 3.89.

Sure, in comparison to Biden, its not terrible, but Biden didn't run on the lowest gas prices ever and putting American's first. I don't see why all the pro-iran Trumpkins can't admit he fricked up and its hurting average Americans.


Posted by demtigers73
Member since Aug 2014
6266 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:43 am to
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“The Strait of Hormuz cannot be seized by tweet, nor by aircraft carrier, nor by issuing an order, nor by an election speech,” Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister for Legal and International Affairs Kazem Gharibabadi wrote on X. “Iran neither fears threats nor cowers before displays of power.”


The Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) said early Saturday that one of its vessels was attacked while crossing the Strait of Hormuz on Friday evening, marking another security incident involving the United Arab Emirates' energy giant in the critical waterway.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
18155 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:46 am to
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That is success


Pure propaganda from Jjdoc as usual.

What about the $40 billion we’ve spent over there? Imagine what that could have done here at home.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10886 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:49 am to
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That is success. And the truth is, as these nations reroute to avoid the strait, prices will continue to fall.


Awesome. Say, can you factor into the January to August price the 100 Billion we have spent so far?
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