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re: Trump and the Strait success.

Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4672 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:33 pm to
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Man you got him good the Duke


That's not the point--you can't make these claims that the people shouldn't care about gas now that it's gone wrong, when the guy built his entire campaign on affordability and gas.

Not keeping your campaign promises is typically considered a failure in the real world.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63873 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:33 pm to
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The Campaign Promise: Trump repeatedly stated that his economic and drilling policies would reduce overall energy costs by 50% and bring regular gasoline down below $2 a gallon ... Mark it down, and you can get very angry at me if we don't do it."


Trump today:

quote:

“For you to pay a TINY little bit more for your gasoline, you’re doing it so that a very evil country cannot have a nuclear weapon. Remember that when you’re paying $4. I’ll never apologize.”



quote:

And let me guess. You thought he would just snap his fingers and make that happen. Not that action would have to be taken.
As usual, Trump is the victim. Has there ever been a bigger victim in American politics?
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 10:35 pm
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9376 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:41 pm to
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From Chatgpt


When you can’t think for yourself . . .
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27966 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:46 pm to
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We just have pussies who can’t help but cry about the price of gas.


Meh, I don’t have a problem with folks complaining about the price of gas. Hell I remember when I was young and married with children. We lived paycheck to paycheck and never had anything left over at the end of the month.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55787 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:51 pm to
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You are assuming China doesn't have the ability to shift to energy independence


Im not assuming a damn thing. I am point out verifiable facts. Just like this is a fact. It takes China 6.5 years to build a functioning nuclear power plant. Not 5 months.

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just read an article stating they have several billion barrels of oil in reserve that we KNOW of.


Does not have a damn thing to do with facts of them not getting oil via the strait. That is verifiable.


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has surprised the markets by shifting away from the strait.


Surprised who? Nobody. Their supply runs through that strait. When we set up the blockade, they could nolonger get what they need. Period.


They had no other option except to turn to the friggin USA to make up ground.


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55787 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:52 pm to
We do know. Lol. You think companies do not show the oil being shipped?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55787 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:55 pm to
Lmao. Look dumbass... where do you think chat gets information from. Out of the Crack of its imaginary azz??

Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
291 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:56 pm to
Your point is that gas is the same as it was during Biden?

When people were putting Biden "I did that" stickers on the pumps?

This is your victory?



I guess when the 2 parties are using each other to lower the bar, you can claim just about anything as a success.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85823 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:58 pm to
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Yet these were the prices:


And what were they under Trump prior to his bullshite in Iran?


January 2025: $72.53
February 2025: $70.13
March 2025: $69.37
April 2025: $58.35
May 2025: $60.79
June 2025: $64.79
July 2025: $70.31A
ugust 2025: $64.21
September 2025: $63.17
October 2025: $61.75
November 2025: $58.58
December 2025: $57.26
January 2026: $64.50
February 2026: $66.96
March 2026: $102.86
April 2026: $108.64
May 2026: $91.16
June 2026: $70.56
July 2026: $86.16
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2171 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:07 pm to
This is the factual take.

Everything else is just midterm election frickery.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5053 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:12 pm to
You left out the part where Brent hit roughly $126 a barrel during this “success.”

You also left out that gasoline is now averaging about $4.08 nationally, up 29% from a year ago, and that Trump himself is now telling Americans to accept higher gas prices as the cost of the Iran war.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
4117 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:18 pm to
You left out your bubba, bubba
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2695 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:19 pm to
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half due to their growing energy independenc



When did this “growing energy independence” start? Conveniently in the last six months?

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55787 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:22 pm to
The point is in the op.



With the Strait closed. With Iran's leaders (50 plus) dead. With their nuke program in shambles. With them not being able to export nearly as much. With them increasingly not able to finance their terror groups in the region.


That is success. And the truth is, as these nations reroute to avoid the strait, prices will continue to fall.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15934 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:23 pm to
The Iran war has been an epic success
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55787 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:24 pm to
I left out nothing that pertained to the point. Read it again.

With the Strait closed. With Iran's leaders (50 plus) dead. With their nuke program in shambles. With them not being able to export nearly as much. With them increasingly not able to finance their terror groups in the region.


That is success. And the truth is, as these nations reroute to avoid the strait, prices will continue to fall.




Any disturbance to supply chains or conflict in general will cause prices of various things to go up until nerves are calmed.


Strait opened. What were the prices.

Strait closed... prices now lower.
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
291 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 11:37 pm to
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The point is in the op.

With the Strait closed. With Iran's leaders (50 plus) dead. With their nuke program in shambles. With them not being able to export nearly as much. With them increasingly not able to finance their terror groups in the region.

That is success. And the truth is, as these nations reroute to avoid the strait, prices will continue to fall.


I hope you are right, but I'm constantly seeing victory claimed based on events that haven't happened and then they never happen.

For example, is this win going to be before or after we win on the bills that were supposed to follow the BBB that were supposed to address spending and such?

I've been told prices were going to come down for a while now. And I see victories every 10 cents it goes down. It reminds me of my wife celebrating losing 5 lbs all the time while ignoring it's the same 5lbs over and over.

And I certainly don't think Biden prices are a win. And it's not even just the prices at the pump, it's an indicator beyond that. I for example already pay more than most because I buy gas with no ethanol. Higher prices affect much more than just what I pay at the pump.

I don't support this war at all. It's a huge mistake and a waste of resources.
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