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re: This Algerian boxer stuff is what’s wrong with social media, she’s always been a woman

Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:37 am to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:37 am to
thank you. someone who actually knows wth theyre talking about

regarding intersex in general - im not building a sports model to accommodate 0.01% of the humans by disenfranchising 52% of the population (actual women)

talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water

simple fact is, this person has XY and already failed another test for increased levels of testosterones.

many other people with genetic disorders are also not able to function in the olympics
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10540 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:38 am to
So do we still want woman beater iron mike to beat them up? or no?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10652 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:38 am to
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The funny thing about this is

Libs have been saying gender identity is complicated


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Now the right is saying - it's more complicated than that. You have to do genetic testing and count chromosomes under a microscope.






the difference is the word "identity" and how they use it.

this person is a very rare case. Yes it does happen, and I'm not really sure what the "fair" way to handle this situations would be to handle it.

but this is completely different than "I feel like a woman today"
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35162 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:39 am to
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People jumped to conclusions before they had any evidence or facts and you’re blaming progressives?


Jumping to conclusions based on previous experience is called learning. Or do you stop at green lights to make sure the people coming the other way are going to stop?

But yes this is 100% the fault of the people who have consistently tried to dupe reasonable people into thinking that men should play women’s sports.

Again, read “T boy who cried wolf” if you need to understand why tricking large groups of people becomes problematic.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35162 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:42 am to
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She has a genetic advantage, but so did Michael Phelps, LeBron James, Usain Bolt, and many many others.


Maybe, maybe not. They certainly don’t have a disadvantage unlike the Italian boxer who was forced to give up her Olympic dreams, but I digress.

Maybe those people you listed just work harder than everyone else?
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
15815 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:45 am to
I'll admit I haven't followed this story any further than "it's a man" headline... So now it comes out that it's a real female.. But the Olympics have rules that if there are more chromosomes than the limit they set she can't box...Right? Did she have more chromosomes than their limit? Did they bend the rules to allow her to box... So now it's not that she is a female it's that she has more chromosomes than the Olympic committee allows?

I remember years ago when the Russians would put these "females" up for competition and we were all convinced that it was a man..
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2108 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:46 am to
This Guy, who i met at a party once, has two rare genetic conditions

Klinefelter XXY - which is an extra X chromosome allowing him super testosterone levels (George Washington had this)

And Marfan - which gives him elongated features with flexible joints (Abe Lincoln had this)

Is it fair that people without these genetic features should complete against him?

This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 10:47 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22173 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:46 am to
I agree. The very few women who are intersex were dealt a shitty hand (or a very good one depending on how you look at it) but we can't use fringe cases to make the rules. The ruling on Semenya being banned is about 200 pages long and full of scientific reasoning for and against the ban. It's not a simple thing but it's not fair for women to compete against people with those disorders, imo
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:46 am to
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She’s a biological woman


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she had too many XY chromosomes


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86538 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:51 am to
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she had too many XY chromosomes
Too many? Are you saying she also has XX?

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She’s a biological woman, not a biological man
The above says this is a false statement.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42426 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:51 am to
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She has a genetic advantage, but so did Michael Phelps, LeBron James, Usain Bolt, and many many other


Men?

So, by your “logic,” Michael Phelps, LeBron James, and Usain Bolt should be able to compete against women as well.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35162 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:53 am to
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Klinefelter XXY - which is an extra X chromosome allowing him super testosterone levels (George Washington had this) And Marfan - which gives him elongated features with flexible joints (Abe Lincoln had this)


If Phelps had competed in a division specifically for people without those characteristics then these two situations might be similar.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9084 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:55 am to
This person, like you, has about 30 trillion cells in their body, and about 11 billion miles of DNA.. Each of those 300,000,000,000,000 cells (excepting red blood cells) has chromosomes. The chromosomes of the person you reference are XY.

Therefore: the person is a male. This is the definition of male, not 'how I was raised'
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
65468 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:55 am to
This guy, who IS a biologist, says the boxer is a biological male. He explains all the "assigned at birth" language.


Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13815 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 10:59 am to
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But see what I guess you don’t know is a lot of women are born with some XY chromosomes, it’s not that uncommon.



Uh... no they aren't. It's quite uncommon.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21653 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:00 am to
Need pics of her vagina to prove.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18864 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:01 am to
She intersex. Unfortunately the tranny agenda has caused people to forget that legimate transgenders exist but it’s a biological birth defect.
That goes for both sides.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:01 am to
Athletes have been banned for overly high testosterone levels. Who cares if it was born that way or taking PEDs? It’s still an an unfair advantage.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15772 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:02 am to
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Imane Khelif was born a woman, raised as a girl, has a vagina, has never had a penis

But does have balls, right? Balls inside her body created from XY chromosome that produce testosterone?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85538 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:06 am to
This same shite used to happen when those East German dudes used to win all the women’s events back in the 80s. Who can ever forget Inga Wolfgang Ballsazchs complete domination of womyn’s equestrian events in LA back in 84. Damn near killed three horses with that torso gargantuism disorder.
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