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I said this the other day.

Charlie Sheen took the hit when everyone wanted the fbi to release the Heidi Fleiss list.

Later that year studios gave him 2 1/2 men and a $2m an episode salary.
Trump is in the file. That's why he was talking all about fake stuff in it today.
The Devil's in the details. "2 minutes and 53 seconds" is not enough time to enter the hallway, access Epstein's cell, strangle him to death, arrange a noose from the bedsheet, and exit the area.

Here is the tape

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3 minutes is a long time.

Enter the hall way - access the cell is like 5 sec.

A couple professionals could get in and out with a pre fashioned noose and take care of this in under 2 minutes flat. Then toss the cell and out.

It could be done.
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He killed himself, y'all. Let it go.


He hung himself from the bunk bed rail with the bed sheets?

Epstein was 6 ft tall.

Obviously his neck was to high for this to be possible so they claim he knelt.

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Metadata from the “raw” Epstein prison video shows approximately 2 minutes and 53 seconds were removed from one of two stitched-together clips. The cut starts right at the “missing minute.”

WIRED previously reported that the video had been stitched together in Adobe Premiere Pro from two video files, contradicting the Justice Department’s claim that it was “raw” footage. Now, further analysis shows that one of the source clips was approximately 2 minutes and 53 seconds longer than the segment included in the final video, indicating that footage appears to have been trimmed before release. It’s unclear what, if anything, the minutes cut from the first clip showed.

The nearly three-minute discrepancy may be related to the widely reported one-minute gap—between 11:58:58 pm and 12:00:00 am—that attorney general Pam Bondi has attributed to a nightly system reset. The metadata confirms that the first video file, which showed footage from August 9, 2019, continued for several minutes beyond what appears in the final version of the video and was trimmed to the 11:58:58 pm mark, right before the jump to midnight. The cut to the first clip doesn’t necessarily mean that there is additional time unaccounted for—the second clip picks up at midnight, which suggests the two would overlap—nor does it prove that the missing minute was cut from the video.
Wait - what does Russia Russia Russia have to do with this?

I am beginning to think Russia is a player in this.

That would explain Trump's reversal on Ukraine and 180 on Putin.

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No, but they would have been the primary for the searches of the home, townhome and island. More to the point, they're about the only possible source for evidence that the administration might have access to.


I guess - but after getting out of prison in 2009, the Epstein game was pretty much done. He was already being monitored heavily and most people didn't want to talk to him. The raid in 2019 was no big surprise and I would guess they got rid of anything incriminating.

JE's heyday was from the 90s to the late 2000s - before his first arrest. That is the real list.

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I didn't mean to imply that. I mean I don't know what evidence still exists that the administration controls. If the obvious implications of this are true the ultimate repository for the evidence isn't the US. The FBI may have "lost" some, but that doesn't mean it no longer exists.


The FBI was never the primary on this operation. It was likely joint NSA - who monitored any communications between Epstein and Israel - and the CIA - who collected evidence on who was compromised and how. This aspect of the investigation is top secret because of its implications to Israel. The files at these organizations are complete. This level of intelligence does not lose information - quite the contrary. If they knew there was a political effort to purge specific intel, it would all stay hidden and secure. Even from political appointees who have authority over them. Its why they are called the deep state.


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Why did Elon say that Trump is in the Epstein files?


Epstein running a honey pot for Israel likely targeted Trump. The 'FILE' includes CIA information about this operation.

Timeline:
Late 80s Trump admits he met Epstein.
1992 - video of Trump showing the Miss USA teens to Epstein
1992-97 - Trump in flight logs
2002 - The NYM article on JE where Trump calls him "terrific guy - likes young women"
2004 - Trump and JE had falling out over Maison de L’Amitié bidding war
2005 - Florida started investigating JE on sex trafficking
2007 - Epstein Mar A Lago account closed. JE supposedly kicked out for hitting on another member's teen daughter.
2008 - JE convicted in Florida

It would be highly unlikely that Trump is NOT in the file. Now - to the question of did he do anything wrong?

Keep in mind - JE and GM were professionals running a honeytrap. They had cameras and recording equipment everywhere. In the 20 years they knew each other - is it possible they recorded Trump doing or saying something he wouldn't want public.

Think about how he talks on the Access Hollywood bus vs off the bus.

Is it possible they presented him with women he flirted with or even had sex with (think Stormy Daniels)? If it happened - JE and GM's end game was to record it. Over 20 years - how many recordings did they have?



I don't know the answer to that - but it is odd that the file disappeared after Elon tweeted this. And how that changed to - it is full of lies from the Obama era.

What are the lies? Or is it just recordings of Trump he doesn't want out.
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No one wants them to release kiddie porn so we can view it, Pam.


AIPAC does not want them to release information that Israel state sponsored a pedophile network honey trap.
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Trump (or anybody) wouldn't need to be guilty of breaking any laws for the blackmail to be effective


This is correct - and both sides will point fingers and say stuff about information being fake. But if you think that evidence was destroyed - you are naïve. Lets say Obama ordered the CIA to destroy something - i am 100% sure they did not.

Epstein was a snake. He likely knew exactly what girl to put in front of Trump and told her what to say to get his attention. That's how the honey trap works. Then roll cameras. You don't have to fake this - but a sex tape of him with a girl over half his age would not be something that would help him secure the moral majority.

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But keep in mind that this is political


Agree with this too. But i will expand this to geo-political. Its one thing to examine the internal politics of right vs left on this issue, and count how many of each side got a massage. It's another to examine this a a foreign operation funded by Israel.

Think of the fall out. If the CIA has concrete evidence that Israel sponsored a blackmail network targeting American politicians, scientists, and the wealthy/powerful, what does that mean for US - Israeli relations? What does that mean for politicians who have supported Israel?

Mid terms coming up - lets say Epstein files released showing Israel orchestrated something like this? Using children to honey trap? Does Israeli support then become a key issue deciding elections? What than happens to Israel in terms of US policy and military assistance? Without US support they are likely wiped off the map in a matter of months. Its likely why much of this was mutually agreed to stay secret.


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No, the SDNY (where Comeys daughter is employed) held the files and refused to release them. Which caught the attention of reporters


Oh I am 100% agreeing that they held information from law enforcement

What I don't understand is they part about faking information - as Trump claims.

What information did they fake? and why is Trump so concerned that there is fake information?

I think Trump in all his arrogance never thought for one minute that he was in the files. Perhaps the thought all the women were of age? Perhaps he didn't know about cameras and recordings? When Elon mentioned it - he asked, what is he talking about? Then it was revealed he was in the files.

Trumps explanation is that it is all fake and Obama put it in the file.

I think it is more likely that his friend of 20 years was an Israeli spy who honey trapped him.

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He alleges that the files were “written”, by the Obama/Hillary/Comey/Brennan cabal.


The raid on Epstein and his arrest and suicide/murder was all in 2018-19. Where is all the evidence from that? The FBI evidence log has numerous hard drives, video discs and contents of safes listed. Did this cabal get in a time machine and manipulate this in the future?

It is pretty obvious what is going on here. Trump is listed in the file. When he pissed off Elon - Elon punched back with Trumps biggest vulnerability - he is in the files. And in a way that you can't redact a page or two and make it go away.

Trump tried stringing us along, then claiming the file doesn't exist, now its that parts of the file are fake - guess which parts?

And if you think the Dems would have released it to destroy Trump - think again. The Clintons still very much have veto power over the party and Bill is also in the files. And likely a long list of other democrats. Neither party would release the files because it would be an act of mutual destruction.

My take - CIA were investigating Epstein WAY before the FBI. I'm guessing late 80s early 90sish. Prior to that. JE was just a pedo wealth manager working for the owner of Victoria Secret. Around 1990 several things happened - 1) he met Maxwell, daughter of an MI6/Mossad double agent (killed 1991) 2) he bought the homes in NYC, palm beach, and the island (where did the money come from?) 3) it is suggested this is when he started trafficking women - the homes all decked with cameras, it is fair to say he was collecting videos of individuals engaged in sex with minors for the purpose of blackmail. We can also presume this was all funded and directed by another country - Israel? So CIA would have been watching. And pre-911 we know they would not have shared intel with any other agency.

Why would Trump be in the files?

This is obvious. If Epstein was an Israeli asset - it makes sense that he would try actively to get close to Trump. Trump would have been a huge target for Epstein. Trump owned Miss Teen USA - Casinos - NY real estate for the elite. He is exactly that guy Epstein would have targeted.

Timeline:
Late 80s Trump admits he met Epstein.
1992 - video of Trump showing the Miss USA teens to Epstein
1992-97 - Trump in flight logs
2002 - The NYM article on JE where Trump calls him "terrific guy - likes young women"
2004 - Trump and JE had falling out over Maison de L’Amitié bidding war
2005 - Florida started investigating JE on sex trafficking
2007 - Epstein Mar A Lago account closed. JE supposedly kicked out for hitting on another member's teen daughter.
2008 - JE convicted in Florida

Question - Is it possible that an Israeli agent could honeytrap Trump into doing something on a secret camera that could be used for blackmail? Keep in mind, not all the JE women were under 18 - they were just young.

Do you honestly think - after what we know about Trump (axis Hollywood, Stormy Daniels) that if in a position where JE invited 1990s Trump over and showed him a room of naked women/girls, Trump would say - I have to go home to my wife? Or would he say something (or do something) on a hidden camera that would get him in the files?

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I wish people would trust Trump… he is trying to hint that right now is not the time for the Epstein shite - he’s (his teams) are working on economic shite right now


ALRIGHT BOYS LISTEN UP - WE WERE ABOUT TO GET THE EVIDENCE WE NEEDED TO BUST THE PEDOS AND SAVE ALL THE LITTLE KIDS BUT THE CHIEF JUST CALLED AND HE'S WORKING ON SOME ECONOMIC SHITE RIGHT NOW SO LETS STAND DOWN!! IT IS SIMPLY NOT THE RIGHT TIME.

I KNOW - THE LITTLE KIDS ARE GETTING RAPED AS WE SPEAK AND ALL WE NEED IS THE EVIDENCE FROM THE FILE TO SAVE THEM - BUT WE HAVE TO TRUST THE CHIEF THAT ECONOMIC SHITE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN STOPPING A NETWORK OF PEDOS!! THERE IS SIMPLY NO WAY TO DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!!

Heidi Fleiss List c 2003

The feds were pushed by the public to release it - knowing that she had clients in Hollywood and DC and the list was explosive. It supposedly included individual fetishes and Fleiss girls were open to 'bring out the gimp' stuff like eating cat food while getting pissed on, etc

In the end Charlie Sheen stepped forward and took the headlines. I think i remember Billy Idol did too (just to get press).

Case closed - no other names were released. Internet wasn't what it is today and despite demand, the fed and MSM closed the book.

Sheen got 2 1/2 men later that year and studios gave him the largest TV contract in the history of Hollywood at $2m an episode.
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That is true, but economics drives China's foreign policies. They would lose the lucrative European and North American trade if they jumped in, so they are all constrained for now.


China has a HUGE economic reason to support Iran in that they supply 1.38 barrels of oil a day (or 90% of Iran's total exports). Losing that oil stream would be devastating.

Therefore - they supply N Korea with parts for military weapons and N Korea assembles and trades equipment with Iran. China does not directly aid Iran and thus does not violate trade agreements. N Korea has no trade agreement with the West so it doesn't matter. China has been doing this for years - its why a POS country like N Korea has such a sophisticated defense system. Its essentially an international weapons factory for China.





re: For the Epstein bros. ...

Posted by WaltWhite504 on 7/14/25 at 12:57 pm to
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a subject they don't give one shite about


People who care about a problem...

A) Openly ask questions and talk about it with others

B) Keep to themselves, don't talk about it anymore

C) Recognize MSM is just messing with your head and ignore it

D) Accept the reality of the problem and move on


If you answered A...

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You're being used by them. Just letting you know.