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re: The collapse of Britain's National Health Service, the crown jewel of socialized healthcar

Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Let’s see if any other countries go to our type of system

We’re more likely to go to theirs


Only because we have an abundance of willfully ignorant marxist democrats in this country.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124222 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:36 pm to
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There will be a secondary market for those that can afford better healthcare. Just like the UK, Canada and France.
As you wish.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24382 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:46 pm to
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There will be a secondary market for those that can afford better healthcare


Yes, it is called healthcare in the USA. I have a few friends working in Europe or living in Canada who have punted on the local system and flew to the US to get their medical needs promptly taken care of.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1657 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:47 pm to
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No one’s making policy based on areas no one lives in

Almost 50 million Americans live in rural and highly rural areas
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56506 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:51 pm to
Too many migrants sucking up resources.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9281 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 12:52 pm to
I remember them making the NHS a significant part of the summer Olympics opening ceremony. I was living there at the time and kept questioning why would they celebrated it so much, when it was crap.
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
146 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:20 pm to
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Poor (uninsured), unhealthy people in the US are driving up cost for everyone. So the poor and unhealthy are getting government controlled healthcare.

There will be a secondary market for those that can afford better healthcare. Just like the UK, Canada and France.


I know people who are on government healthcare. They are always having some procedure done, use the emergency room as their primary care and yet never pay for anything.

My family has good insurance through work, but still pay a $1000s each year in deductibles.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14325 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 1:49 pm to
One danger of centralized healthcare that reared its ugly head during the COVID craziness was the refusal of many healthcare professionals to prescribe treatments like ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. Even with a prescription, some pharmacists would not fill them.

Instead of debating the effectiveness of these treatments, the orders to not prescribe them came down and were mostly driven by politics. And when Florida was distributing monoclonal antibodies with success, the Feds stepped in and took that over.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20301 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:24 pm to
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Poor (uninsured), unhealthy people in the US are driving up cost for everyone.


I thought your boy Obama fixed this with his Obamacare. Your just another stupid leftist who sucks down whatever your democrat overlords feed you
This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by blueagateblues
Member since Sep 2022
241 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:53 pm to
No, I think it's because decent human beings don't believe that people who can't afford healthcare should die instead.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29512 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 2:55 pm to
Healthcare in the same fashion as the Postal service or the DMV .

What could possibly go wrong? They are the hallmarks of efficiency !!!
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:19 pm to
It's coming to a theater near you soon.

mRNA, nanotechnology, AI.. look who owns the patents/are banking on this & then ask yourself what do healthcare facilities & staff look like in the future?

USGovt is taking over healthcare, banking, farming, technology right under our noses.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15814 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:26 pm to
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After a series of leaks revealed emergency waiting room times up to five times higher than the publicly available figures, the NHS promised to begin making the “hidden” data available.

British Health Secretary Steve Barclay said the NHS would publish the “real” number beginning in April in an effort to improve “transparency.”


Remember when the Soviets lied about radiation figures during Chernobyl? They had the real numbers and the propaganda numbers.

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Britons should be outraged, but they’re conditioned to think the NHS is better than every alternative, so they’ll take what they’re given.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:30 pm to
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No, I think it's because decent human beings don't believe that people who can't afford healthcare should die instead.


If they are such decent human beings, why don’t they pay for it themselves, instead of trying to make American taxpayers do it?

Speaking of decent human beings, would a decent human being that is imminently capable of working and paying their own way, want the American taxpayer to foot the bill for their healthcare?
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 4:31 pm to
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, is collapsing under the strain of long wait times, hidden data, and excess deaths.


Collapsing? It won't collapse because they don't give a frick no matter how many people died and the UK seems to want it based on their voting habits.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39790 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Let’s see if any other countries go to our type of system

The allure of free shite is like a magnetic pull. But our system is far better than theirs. My daughter lives there, and I know what kind of care her family gets and the wait times. It sucks. But they think it’s free. Of course, it’s not.

The UK system is better for the bums. The US system is better for the working people. The US system would be much improved if they would make employer provided health insurance taxable. This would cause people to refuse it and to buy their own. Many choices would emerge, and folks would have health insurance tailored to what they need.

The only part of the US system of health care that runs great is the part which includes non covered elective surgeries. Breast implants, lasik surgery, facelifts, tummy tucks, aol of these are becoming cheaper and better and all of the mandated insurance covered stuff is becoming more and more expensive.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5665 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:28 pm to
I remember when our family doctor made house calls, leather black/brown bag and all. He was a good man. Highly educated as well. I did not live in the “rurality” posted by the medical “Geographer” earlier. That’s just the way life was and things worked in the mid-1950s.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
2028 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 7:23 pm to
They Globalist version of ObamaCare being played out before our eyes. All you DEMOCRAT COMMUNIST SCUMBAGS, the chickens are about to come home to roost in the USA, can’t wait to see y’all punk asses with your tail between your legs with no supplies when the shite hits the fan, bunch of fruitcakes

Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23926 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:13 pm to
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No, I think it's because decent human beings don't believe that people who can't afford healthcare should die instead.


is that the only part of the social contract you believe in? should we make murder illegal too?
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
2608 posts
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:42 pm to
I went to the dermatologist with referral from my doc and was still over 100 after 30 copay
BCBS btw
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