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re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by Forever on 7/13/20 at 9:42 am to BamaTide1958
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If they believe as they do that god told them that homosexuality is an abomination that means no freedom for gays duh.
Religious views aside, gays don’t deserve the same rights as heterosexual couples because they contribute absolutely nothing to society. If everyone decided tomorrow to be gay, we would be extinct in 70 years. So, political views aside, any action that would lead the human race to extinction should be frowned upon at best.
It’s great that they’ve made their fetish a lifestyle and all but that doesn’t mean a normal person with a functioning brain should suppport them.
But I guess that thought process is “over your head”. Let’s just all love each other maaaaaaan
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They want THEIR religious beliefs pushed in public schools. They do not want teachers telling kids about sex or birth control but they want those same teachers leading prayer and bible study.
I’m a Christian and support this 100% at an appropriate age. The issue is that whackjob liberal teachers also use it as an excuse to push things like transgenderism and porn addiction normalization. You are aware that parents can teach their children about safe sex without the government doing it “their” way, right?
You’re a typical fake intellectual, insecure anti-Christian dumbass
This post was edited on 7/13 at 9:43 am
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by sumtimeitbeslikedat on 7/13/20 at 10:01 am to TinGym
I think that there are some things that happen that fall in his perfect will, and some things that he allows to happen.
BUT NOTHING goes on without Gods allowance. Sometimes the reason is for punishment, sometimes it is for provision, sometimes it is a test to see how we will handle adversity or blessing... the myriad of reasons is God and God’s alone, and the complexities of his guidance is not something we can always understand. This is why we put our faith and trust in God and serve HIM alone. Why we trust God for our ‘daily bread’... and not just for physical nourishment, but in ALL things. And he takes care of us. He promises us in the Bible that ALL things (not EVERY thing) work TOGETHER for good for those who trust him and are called according to his purpose. It is also our duty as Christians to stand for Christ, pray for our nation and world, and yes, fight with all our might for Christian (Jesus’ / God’s / Biblical) principles and precepts when evil tries to destroy truth, love, mercy, grace, and true Biblical justice. That’s where we are fast approaching today, and it is a fight I will NOT back down from... I will fight it in prayer and however else is needed to defend Truth and protect this country.
BUT NOTHING goes on without Gods allowance. Sometimes the reason is for punishment, sometimes it is for provision, sometimes it is a test to see how we will handle adversity or blessing... the myriad of reasons is God and God’s alone, and the complexities of his guidance is not something we can always understand. This is why we put our faith and trust in God and serve HIM alone. Why we trust God for our ‘daily bread’... and not just for physical nourishment, but in ALL things. And he takes care of us. He promises us in the Bible that ALL things (not EVERY thing) work TOGETHER for good for those who trust him and are called according to his purpose. It is also our duty as Christians to stand for Christ, pray for our nation and world, and yes, fight with all our might for Christian (Jesus’ / God’s / Biblical) principles and precepts when evil tries to destroy truth, love, mercy, grace, and true Biblical justice. That’s where we are fast approaching today, and it is a fight I will NOT back down from... I will fight it in prayer and however else is needed to defend Truth and protect this country.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by bayoumuscle21 on 7/13/20 at 10:18 am to BamaTide1958
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The notion that god is playing us all like chess pieces is retarded. Dangerous also.
As a Christian who surrounds himself with Christians, nobody thinks or believes this nonsense. Free will and all.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by Freauxzen on 7/13/20 at 10:24 am to Sus-Scrofa
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For people who live in a place where they never hear the gospel, for mentally disabled who don't have full mental capacity during their lives, and other similar people, I figure God has a plan to somehow, at some point in time, let them make their decision on things.
It's called the Illumination of Consciousness
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by FooManChoo on 7/13/20 at 10:35 am to Sus-Scrofa
quote:According to the scriptures, only a trust in Jesus Christ can save anyone. This trust is the product of God's grace in an individual through the work of the Holy Spirit. While God can do this to work to anyone, He has chosen the preaching of the Gospel as the primary means to work through. This is the reason why Christ provided the "great commission" to send His followers throughout the world to make disciples of the nations.
For people who live in a place where they never hear the gospel, for mentally disabled who don't have full mental capacity during their lives, and other similar people, I figure God has a plan to somehow, at some point in time, let them make their decision on things.
No clue what that looks like, but from what I think I know about God, I bet they still get their fair shake in the long run.
If God provides salvation to everyone apart from faith in Christ then Christ's death is of no purpose. If it merely makes it possible for God to save and doesn't actually accomplish salvation, then Christ did not save anyone; He only made it possible, and just as possible that His death would have been in vain.
The common misconception is that God is somehow unjust or unfair to not provide an opportunity for every person to hear the Gospel and be saved. This thought process ignores what the scriptures say about the guiltiness of all of humanity and the depravity of all people. It changes the guilt of mankind into a kind of innocence predicated on ignorance whereby God--as a God of love--is obligated to at least offer a chance at salvation to everyone.
God's grace is grace because it is unmerited. God is under no obligation to save any person for their rebellion against Him. He can save whomever He wills and is not unjust for letting His enemies receive the just rewards for their sins. All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God.
The question shouldn't be "why would a loving God let anyone go to Hell without an offer of the Gospel?" The question should be "why does a perfectly holy God choose to save anyone at all?"
This post was edited on 7/13 at 12:07 pm
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by Champagne on 7/13/20 at 10:39 am to Kester5144
My take is that they are correct.
Churches are already burning - arson by Leftist revolutionaries.
Statues of Christian Holy people are being destroyed by Leftist revolutionaries.
I have NO doubt WRT what's coming in the future for all Christian churches and people here in the dying USA. Look to CHINA for the model that our Marxist overlords will follow WRT dealing with Christianity here in the dying USA.
Churches are already burning - arson by Leftist revolutionaries.
Statues of Christian Holy people are being destroyed by Leftist revolutionaries.
I have NO doubt WRT what's coming in the future for all Christian churches and people here in the dying USA. Look to CHINA for the model that our Marxist overlords will follow WRT dealing with Christianity here in the dying USA.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by westide on 7/13/20 at 10:40 am to Kester5144
Satan wanted Hillary in the WH but Trump is there instead. Figure it out. If you are one of the idiots who don't believe in God, you will find out how wrong you are a few seconds after you take your last breath! By then it will be too late!
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by Kester5144 on 7/13/20 at 11:18 am to westide
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you are one of the idiots who don't believe in God, you will find out how wrong you are a few seconds after you take your last breath
Its so sad. There are so many that mock the prophets and so many more who are just so beat down and dejected to have faith, but i trust God's judgement is just.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by Roll Tide Ravens on 7/13/20 at 12:05 pm to BamaTide1958
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It's over your head.
People with very narrow strict beliefs who think that god has spoken through a little book will have no regard for civil liberties and individual freedom. If they believe as they do that god told them that homosexuality is an abomination that means no freedom for gays duh.
They want THEIR religious beliefs pushed in public schools. They do not want teachers telling kids about sex or birth control but they want those same teachers leading prayer and bible study.
Let kids learn religion from their church and their parents.
So you honestly believe that evangelical Christians are more dangerous than the modern day liberals?
Evangelical Christians are more dangerous than the left’s desire to bar anything that they deem to be hate speech?
Evangelical Christians are more dangerous that the left’s desire to greatly restrict the Second Amendment?
Evangelical Christians are more dangerous than open borders, Green New Deal, universal healthcare, universal basic income, free college tuition for all, and trillions of dollars in new debt?
Evangelical Christians are more dangerous than massive federal government control? They’re more dangerous than letting people like Bernie Sanders, AOC, Rashida Talib, Ilhan Omar, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Stacey Abrams, etc. have power to control our federal government?
If school prayer is your best argument for why Evangelical Christians are more dangerous than the modern left, then you have a weak argument.
This post was edited on 7/13 at 12:07 pm
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by bayoubengals88 on 7/13/20 at 12:14 pm to bayoumuscle21
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Free will and all.
That’s not much of an argument. You’ll find that it has even less support.
You can do what you will, but you can’t will what you will.
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re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by hawkeye007 on 7/13/20 at 12:20 pm to Forever
so since my wife and i didnt have kids we contributed nonthing to society? that is hands down the stupidiest thing i have seen stated on TD in a long while. congrats!!
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by McLemore on 7/13/20 at 12:28 pm to Kester5144
If God is in control of everything, then yes.
If God isn't in control of everything, then he isn't God, and the question is therefore moot.
If God isn't in control of everything, then he isn't God, and the question is therefore moot.
This post was edited on 7/13 at 4:47 pm
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by bayoubengals88 on 7/13/20 at 12:33 pm to Champagne
Orthodox Christianity alert for the whole thread:
God doesn’t judge an individual’s sins temporally, only eternally. There are no blessings because we do good, and there are no curses because we sin.
On the whole, we are blessed. Period. Look around. We all have much for which to be thankful. We are not cursed. There’s nothing biblical to support that, we, as redeemed Gentiles, do not experience curses.
However, we do experience discipline, as a father disciplines his son (Hebrews). This is not done corporately. We are not Old Testament Israel. The US has no covenant agreement with God.
Anyone who thinks a natural disaster or a 9/11 event is judgement against gays (or fill in the blank) a la Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson is an idiot who enjoys showing off their idiocy.
Natural disasters kill people and other humans kill people because our world is inherently corrupt and waiting for reconciliation. Period.
God doesn’t judge an individual’s sins temporally, only eternally. There are no blessings because we do good, and there are no curses because we sin.
On the whole, we are blessed. Period. Look around. We all have much for which to be thankful. We are not cursed. There’s nothing biblical to support that, we, as redeemed Gentiles, do not experience curses.
However, we do experience discipline, as a father disciplines his son (Hebrews). This is not done corporately. We are not Old Testament Israel. The US has no covenant agreement with God.
Anyone who thinks a natural disaster or a 9/11 event is judgement against gays (or fill in the blank) a la Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson is an idiot who enjoys showing off their idiocy.
Natural disasters kill people and other humans kill people because our world is inherently corrupt and waiting for reconciliation. Period.
This post was edited on 7/13 at 12:35 pm
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by Azkiger on 7/13/20 at 12:34 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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I’ve read some really stupid things here, but this may crack the top 2-3.
Rewind back to the 80s and 90s, Dungeons and Dragons was the devil, Magic the Gathering had to change art and text of many cards because of Christian Karen's (much like they just did a few weeks ago because of the SJW mob) certain songs/bands couldn't be on the radio without public outrage. The Christian supermajority used its public weight quite effectively.
Elements of the right are no different than progressives with respect to being authoritarian and Orwellian.
I'll give Christans a pat on the back though. At least they know they're following a religion. Progressives/SJWs/etc still haven't figured that out yet.
This post was edited on 7/13 at 12:36 pm
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by Poncho and Lefty on 7/13/20 at 12:38 pm to Azkiger
Seems that the more ignorant people are, the more opinions they have.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by bayoubengals88 on 7/13/20 at 12:45 pm to Azkiger
quote:Hear this man out.
Azkiger
Consider if what he says is truthful.
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The Christian supermajority used its public weight quite effectively.
yes.
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Elements of the right are no different than progressives with respect to being authoritarian and Orwellian.
yes.
quote:Thanks, I'll take the compliment. And yes.
I'll give Christans a pat on the back though. At least they know they're following a religion. Progressives/SJWs/etc still haven't figured that out yet.
There is absolutely nothing false about your post. It's nothing new to equate the far right with authoritarianism. It's completely fair.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by BamaTide1958 on 7/13/20 at 12:46 pm to Forever
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The issue is that whackjob liberal teachers also use it as an excuse to push things like transgenderism and porn addiction normalization. You are aware that parents can teach their children about safe sex without the government doing it “their” way, right?
How about learning to read? I never said I want libtard teachers pushing their agenda on anyone. I'm consistent I do not want religion, bible study, teacher led prayer OR personally morality and sex taught in schools!!!
I want parents doing that. Go back and read. You cannot win an argument being an idiot.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by bayoubengals88 on 7/13/20 at 12:47 pm to Poncho and Lefty
quote:Indeed
Seems that the more ignorant people are, the more opinions they have.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by BamaTide1958 on 7/13/20 at 12:48 pm to westide
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Satan wanted Hillary in the WH but Trump is there instead. Figure it out. If you are one of the idiots who don't believe in God, you will find out how wrong you are a few seconds after you take your last breath! By then it will be too late!
Who wanted Obama? So god is weak and gets owned by satan every other election cycle? Then don't worship him.
I suppose it would not occur to you that black Christians praying in baptist and Pentecostal churches were praying for an Obama victory.
re: Several Evangelical Christians on YT are saying God put Trump in the WHPosted by CFFreak on 7/13/20 at 12:49 pm to Kester5144
I think Evangelicals are whack but I can't say I blame them for supporting Trump. They just got everything else all wrong.
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