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re: Question for the Joggers of Political Talk

Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:41 am to
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So what if the homeowner told them he was robbed? He wasn’t. So they’re still up shite creek


To me what the homeowner might’ve said in the past has little bearing in the situation. Did they that moment contact him and ask “is someone supposed to be at your house?” If not, they might’ve suspected a crime but did not know for sure..suspicion doesn’t seem enough to make a citizens arrest.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:43 am to
Still doesn't give reason to chase him down. Call the police. Stand watch on your property if you need to, but chasing someone down in the street and shooting them makes you no better than the lawless culcha you are "fighting against"
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:47 am to
Yeah I agree completely. If they saw him and chased him because of a possible previous instance, their claims of immediate knowledge weaken. If they don't go armed and simply follow him, none of this happens and no one dies. Or if they just call police and stay at home. No clue what spurred them on to make a citizens arrest.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17579 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:48 am to
So if you are not wearing normal athletic attire while jogging, that givess the ok for 2 random men to ambush you with guns drawn in the middle of the street?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:49 am to
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If they run out in front of me and initiate a face to face encounter, every fricking time. One thousand out of one thousand times, if I am face to face with an armed man who clearly does not intend to let me go, I will try to take the gun. No doubt about it.





Ok Tinkerbell
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:51 am to
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So if you are not wearing normal athletic attire while jogging, that givess the ok for 2 random men to ambush you with guns drawn in the middle of the street?


Of course. I shot two women in Target yesterday who were wearing yoga pants and had no intention of doing yoga.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173658 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:52 am to
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Still doesn't give reason to chase him down. Call the police. Stand watch on your property if you need to, but chasing someone down in the street and shooting them makes you no better than the lawless culcha you are "fighting against"

Pretty simple concept

And you'd think if this guy has previous experience in law enforcement he'd know that people can act unpredictably when you fricking pull guns on them

These people are both morons and both deserve to be buried under the jail
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70466 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

How often do you go jogging in a neighborhood you don’t live in


I don't so much anymore, but when I was living on a busy highway, I used to drive to more suburban style neighborhoods to run or ride my bike. My mom still does this regularly.

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which is across an interstate from where you live


Not often, but every now and then, yeah.

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while wearing cargo shorts, high top shoes


I do this frequently, tbh

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with a hammer?


Absolutely never.

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I’m just curious as to whether or not it makes sense to jog where I live or on the other side of I-10?


Like I said, depends on if where you live is walkable.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:32 pm to
Question, where does it say he had a hammer? I can't find it anywhere, but no news stories are really doing anything other than emotional appeals. Anynody got a link to the hammer thing?
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95637 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:48 pm to
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And you'd think if this guy has previous experience in law enforcement he'd know that people can act unpredictably when you fricking pull guns on them


All true.

quote:

These people are both morons and both deserve to be buried under the jail


Mostly true. I mean, we do get into the motivations of every specimen of criminal who comes along, don't we? In this case, the "morons" (your word, but I can't disagree) created the situation that was avoidable. And the blood is most definitely on their hands.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28137 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:51 pm to
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Of course. I shot two women in Target yesterday who were wearing yoga pants and had no intention of doing yoga.


Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13621 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:55 pm to
I don't know but I am willing to concede the fact the guy was a robber who had every intention of breaking into cars.

You still can't shoot him, and if you do shoot him and he dies you rot in jail.

Every gun owner knows the rule

If he is inside your house you shoot if he is outside your hpuse you do not shoot.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95637 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

If he is inside your house you shoot if he is outside your hpuse you do not shoot.



Out on a public street and no evidence he was armed - merely brandishing the weapon likely justifies his act in rushing them, particularly boxed in between 2 vehicles.

It is an individual-level equivalent of war - once it starts, you have no idea how it is going to end.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29227 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:00 pm to
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You mean 2 guys that ambush you with guns drawn that aren't police officers?

Why in the world would you think they'd just let you just keep going?


Because you have shite for brains. Literally. That's the only possible justification for defending the shooters...you have to be a fricking idiot.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87349 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:00 pm to
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Pretty simple concept

And you'd think if this guy has previous experience in law enforcement he'd know that people can act unpredictably when you fricking pull guns on them

These people are both morons and both deserve to be buried under the jail


In light of how reasonable 90% of the people on the OT are about this topic, it's depressing as shite to see this one

But PT, so should know better
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55738 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:01 pm to
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Question for the Joggers of Political Talk Question for the Murderers of PT How often do you go around patrolling your neighborhood looking for people you might want to shoot?


Our neighborhood has a pretty vigilant watch group but we're still able to keep peace without arming ourselves......if need be we'll adjust to whatever the criminal presence demands.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29227 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:02 pm to
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I don't know but I am willing to concede the fact the guy was a robber who had every intention of breaking into cars.

You still can't shoot him, and if you do shoot him and he dies you rot in jail.


He had a shoplifting arrest on his record.

That doesn't mean that a rent-a-cop at a mall, Walmart, or Publix gets to stop him AT frickING GUNPOINT just because he walks into the store.

You have to seriously be one stupid motherfricker to think that the rednecks were entitled to force an encounter with him at all.

This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:23 pm to
The fact there are actually people defending those racist fricksticks is absurd. They are nothing but racist murderers, Jesus Christ this board is pathetic sometimes.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39924 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:26 pm to
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How often do you go jogging in a neighborhood you don’t live in, which is across an interstate from where you live, while wearing cargo shorts, high top shoes, and with a hammer?

Only when I'm porch pirating
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:31 pm to
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Thanks for posting, now I know what the correct side of the story to be on is.
Thanks for confirming that you do not think for yourself.
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