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Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:30 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The predictions of massive death tolls don’t make sense. We aren’t seeing enough cases, and the cases aren’t deadly enough.
And to allow inherently, inexorably biased celebrity epidemiologists to dictate public policy to the extent we have is sheer folly.
They HAVE to say it's worse than it is. It's in their nature.
If they underestimate severity then they are done for. No more media for you pal. If they overestimate, they have a ready made, pat answer: it WOULD'VE been as bad as or worse than I predicted but for my heroic sage advice and action.
Eta: also there's a "health science"/epi field bias: we know and can provide what's best for you much better than a) you do, b) economists do, c) the free market does, and d) anyone else does. We doctor. You peeon.
They scorpion. We frog.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:30 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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Hospitals are not making $ right now
My big local hospital is losing $50 million/month. There's another state of the art, slightly smaller one across town that's probably losing $30-40M as well.
We have 20 cases in our county and 1 death.
The bailout for rural hospitals is going to be insane.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:34 pm to Dick Leverage
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want the upstart middle class knocked down a few pegs.
Working beautifully. The wife and I will be moving in with my parents if this lasts another month.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:38 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Thank the media. They are the bearer of bad news in this case.
I agree w/ you, but Americans are the ones who continue to swallow the lies the main stream media keep telling us.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:41 pm to Ag Zwin
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They have shut down all elective and non-critical care to maintain readiness for the wave of COVID zombies. So far, our 7 county area has 19 cases. Not 19 IC, or even hospitalized, patients. 19 positive tests. 19.
Insanity reigns
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:43 pm to Dick Leverage
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The virus is real. The response is the scam. Most of the msm and global corporate power brokers want the upstart middle class knocked down a few pegs.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:51 pm to Ag Zwin
Sorry to hear of your wife's job.
A friend of mine has a daughter in MN. He told me the daughter said the entire state of MN only had 400 confirmed cases of Covid 19 (this was last week). I told him that told me the state of MN didn't go to Mardi Gras this year. He was in the Rochester area last fall and said the folks were super nice, but the food was very bland.
When he got home, he sent her a can of "Slap Ya Mama." 
A friend of mine has a daughter in MN. He told me the daughter said the entire state of MN only had 400 confirmed cases of Covid 19 (this was last week). I told him that told me the state of MN didn't go to Mardi Gras this year. He was in the Rochester area last fall and said the folks were super nice, but the food was very bland.
When he got home, he sent her a can of "Slap Ya Mama." 
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:52 pm to Ag Zwin
One of the problems with the models is that I believe they’re projecting normal occupancy for the hospitals and adding Covid 19 patients to it.
So, for your state’s example, the state has around 1,400 total ICU beds. The Washington model projects that only 25% of their ICU beds are available. That leaves only 355 ICU beds available based on their projections. Which leaves a shortage of 150 beds. None of that shortage will ever happen. 1) the ICUs aren’t as full with “regular” patients as they are normally and 2) the local hospitals already have mobilized surge capacity beyond the projected need for ICU beds (based on the projections).
So, for your state’s example, the state has around 1,400 total ICU beds. The Washington model projects that only 25% of their ICU beds are available. That leaves only 355 ICU beds available based on their projections. Which leaves a shortage of 150 beds. None of that shortage will ever happen. 1) the ICUs aren’t as full with “regular” patients as they are normally and 2) the local hospitals already have mobilized surge capacity beyond the projected need for ICU beds (based on the projections).
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:53 pm to Ag Zwin
Bad move by the hospital. I thought they would have heard by now that we’re only two weeks behind Italy
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:56 pm to Ag Zwin
I believe that they aren’t overwhelmed. But they could have 100% of their beds full and still be laying people off as the revenue drivers (like OR facility fees) aren’t up and running.
Layoffs vs “full” ICUs/tele/med surg floors don’t correlate really anywhere in the country
Layoffs vs “full” ICUs/tele/med surg floors don’t correlate really anywhere in the country
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:10 am to Bernie Bierman
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Construction is underway on a $1 billion expansion of our two hospital complexes.
In Duluth?
A billion dollar expansion of a hospital?
What in the holy frick...
btw-Goes right along with my comment a while back about the Taj Mahal hospitals being built.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:15 am to BuckyCheese
quote:Hard to find a hospital that hasn't expanded or/and isn't expanding now.
A billion dollar expansion of a hospital?
And people say "we're out of money for healthcare"
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:29 am to Taxing Authority
The point was a BILLION dollar expansion. In Duluth.
We're not talking about a large metro area here.
We're not talking about a large metro area here.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:32 am to BuckyCheese
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Taj Mahal hospitals being built
The new wing of Piedmont hospital in Atlanta looks like a Las Vegas hotel.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:15 am to Ag Zwin
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So far, our 7 county area has 19 cases.
St Louis and Carlton have 18 between the two of them as of 4/3/2020. What other counties are you including?
MN Dept of Health
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:34 am to TerryDawg03
Was going by this. Couple of days old by now (and even when started the thread), but was just a quick find.
KBJR
KBJR
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NORTHEASTERN MINNESOTA CASES
St. Louis County reported its 13 confirmed COVID-19 case Wednesday.
Beltrami is reporting four cases, Itasca and Cass one case each, while Lake, Cook, and Koochiching counties have not reported a confirmed case.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 6:55 am to Ag Zwin
Time for healthy under 60’s to go back to work.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:02 am to Little Trump
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Seriously could this whole thing turn out to be a giant scam?
The virus is real but the left wing and their media's reaction to it has been a total sham. Every move they make has been designed to make things as bad sounding as possible.
They even went as far as hoping for high death counts so it would be as disruptive as could be. Just awful, miserable people
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:11 am to Ag Zwin
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Works with TBI, stroke patients, cancer
This is the first thing I thought when I read the OP. Family friend has a similar occupation.
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