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re: "My daughter didn't join the Navy to be on a ship."

Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:05 am to
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159495 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:05 am to
I was shocked at what I saw from the Army at Ft Leonard wood at an event where they ran a bunch of kids through said event.

Mostly Hispanic short females and unathletic males. Lots of black females.

Nothing like recruits from days gone by.

How did they pass physical fitness requirements? How are they going to move and fire without calling a timeout.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4939 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:06 am to
remember back when people joined the national guard because they thought it was only weekend duty and 2 weeks during the summer. paid well. then they wound up in iraq. i recall people saying, i didn't sign up for this. no, they shouldn't complain because they signed up. nobody forced them. but the iran war has revealed that the navy has some serious problems. they don't have enough ships in working order or crews to man those ships. taking a carrier from the pacific to replace one that has been at sea too long is a problem. especially if it leaves the pacific without one. ships in the middle east had been supplied by the naval base in bahrain. except it was destroyed. supplies now had to come from diego garcia, 2000 miles away. it doesn't look to me like hegseth and the pentagon thought all this through when they started a war they thought would be over in a week.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103926 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:11 am to
People need to understand when you join the military you don’t get to choose what your duties are in that branch. Once you get through training, you’re in and they own you. You do your duty whatever they decide it is
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2759 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:16 am to
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beans for every meal.


My grandfather who was in the Navy during WW2 once told me they ate so many beans that after the war when he got home, told my grandmother she could cook what ever she wanted to just no beans. I think it took him a couple decades to enjoy beans again.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
1347 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 7:55 am to
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pass physical fitness requirements?


Recruiters see to it that all entrance requirements are marked "Passed"

Not sure that 2 years universal military duty would work. Maybe something could be built into HS that taught societal obligation, duties and benefits. Fewer and fewer youth have any understanding of those.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110746 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:18 am to
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Maybe something could be built into HS that taught societal obligation, duties and benefits. Fewer and fewer youth have any understanding of those.


But that would interfere with their instruction on Communism and Gender Identification.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
25784 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:21 am to
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Court marshal, quick trial, Leavenworth, execution. In that order in 90 days or less


Our softness will be the reason we fail.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46754 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:30 am to
And I didn't join the Army to go on 12 mile road marches, sleep in patrol bases, and eat MREs.

Bunch of bullshite.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3923 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:30 am to
This new generation is definitely soft and I thought my generation was soft. I'm not saying deployments are fun because they definitely aren't but this new batch just thinks if they complain they can get out if everything. I'm still enlisted despite being a chemical engineer in the civilian world but I'm just tired of dealing with it in general. Honestly it's why I never tried to become an officer because I'd probably get in trouble. Good news is I'm leaving for good after 13 years in a month (6 active, 7 reserve). It's mainly the COVID generation that acts like this.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22352 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:30 am to
A friend went through the Navy the duration of the Vietnam war & still has those same issues, with French fries. He said that those fries, cooked the same throughout the Navy, were hard to even digest. To this date he has never eaten even one.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1984 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:35 am to
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Would love for my grandfather to be alive to see this, WW2 Pacific 5 battle stars, was on one of the most deadly sea duties in history on a destroyer as a radar picket off Okinawa at the height of Kamikaze attacks. Thousands of U.S. sailors killed in those 3 months off Okinawa. 130F in the engine room, steam leaks that could cut a man in half like a laser, beans for every meal.


So was my father. He was a navigator on a Fletcher class Destroyer Escort. He was at Iwa Jima, Okinawa and more After leaving Hawaii for the western Pacific in 1944 he was hardly off the boat until the end of the war.

He was a good navigator. When the decommissioned he was already out of active duty so the Captain took the big compass on the bridge and the 2 sextons he used to navigate and sent them to him. I have them now. I am thinking of donating them to the WW2 museum in New Orleans.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36624 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:36 am to
The military has become just a jobs program.

She's complaining about this as if she was complaining about doing the TPS reports on the weekend.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4976 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:41 am to
It's fine, she'll milk the system for 100% disability and get $4,000 per month for life.


Need a reckoning for veterans.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8763 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:49 am to
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"My daughter didn't join the Navy to be on a ship."


Maybe the daughter was hoping for a submarine because it long and round and full of seamen.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
536 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:52 am to
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The military has become just a jobs program.


It really has. The US Army should probably become solely a National Guard function while we drastically increase the size of the Navy.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6754 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:55 am to
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The military has become just a jobs program.



quote:

It really has.


It's an advancement tool for females and minorities. A large percentage of our budget is spent on creating and sustaining the livelihood of useless people.

quote:

And I thought we were getting soft when I was in. (Late 90’s)


Things were headed in that direction with Clinton. "Don't ask, don't tell." It's really an example of the slippery slope in action. There will be a correction, but it's not going to be easy. The change needs to start before the troops even enter the military. This is a national security issue that begins with the family. Roles within the family need to be reinforced, or social cohesion and the entire hierarchy will crumble.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 9:13 am
Posted by Whodat4300
Tennessee
Member since Jul 2020
1298 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:58 am to
Nailed it. And I thought we were getting soft when I was in. (Late 90’s)
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25936 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:00 am to
Job assignments while you can put down a preference it all comes down to for the good of the. (Insert service branch)

I say that as the parent of a current USNA midshipman. Everything from college majors to future job assignments is not set in stone even for them. The request top three and hope for the best.
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 9:03 am
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
5616 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:02 am to
My father's aircraft carrier was hit by two kamakazi's. 396 of his shipmates were lost that day.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
16426 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 9:06 am to
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"My daughter didn't join the Navy to be on a ship."


Incredible.

"You expect me to drink this coffee hot?!"
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