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MPD policy allows knee to the neck restraint. Wow!
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:45 am
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:45 am
LiNK
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According to the Minneapolis Police Policy Manual, the restraint used was in policy and it also indicates that training is given to officers on the maneuver.
According to the policy, a neck restraint can be used as a form of a “non-deadly option” and is defined as “compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck).”
And NO there is NO reason to use it or any restraint technique on a complaint person, especially one in serious medical distress. I thought I’d get that in before some of the more emotional posters go high & right.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:50 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
Sorry to burst your anti-cop crusade, but if it's in that manual the dude is walking, and those other officers are getting their jobs back.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:50 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
Every cop, former cop, former FBI agent I heard on tv said this is never ever the correct procedure
If that’s in the manual then cop gets off I’m betting. Wow.
This post was edited on 5/30/20 at 8:51 am
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:50 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
Interesting.....
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:50 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
I’m sure the policy doesn’t suggest using a knee restraint for two minutes after the subject has become non-responsive.
I don’t consider the knee restraint to necessarily be a problem. It’s the not letting up until the guy’s dead part that is wrong.
I don’t consider the knee restraint to necessarily be a problem. It’s the not letting up until the guy’s dead part that is wrong.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:51 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
It’s not in Hannity’s martial arts manual though.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:51 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
We have probably seen the end of police officers using choking restraints. Tasing will be more utilized now.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:51 am to Lawyered
Lawyered Oxford mayor let the mask mandate expire yet??
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:51 am to OchoDedos
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Sorry to burst your anti-cop crusade, but if it's in that manual the dude is walking, and those other officers are getting their jobs back
How in the world are you inferring I’m anti-cop by this article?
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:53 am to OchoDedos
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Sorry to burst your anti-cop crusade, but if it's in that manual the dude is walking
I argued this yesterday, but I'm questioning it now. What does the manual say about applying that kind of force to restrain a subdued suspect?
If a suspect is resisting arrest, can they apply that kind of pressure to restrain him and then continue until help arrives?
I really don't know. That's going to be the only argument. Because if it's a judgment call and the officers are taught to let up when the suspect complies, then the officer will be guilty of manslaughter.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:53 am to tiger91
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If that’s in the manual then cop gets off I’m betting. Wow.
I know I would like to see the actual hard copy policy instead of taking this article at its word.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:54 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
quote:Wow!
is defined as “compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck).
Hey Minneapolis, write the Floyd's a BIG check now. You can get good PR.
You'll be writing it later anyway.
Oh, and fire the imbecile responsible for the “compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck" policy.
This post was edited on 5/30/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:54 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
like I said, if you resist arrest and wind up dead, I really don't have any sympathy.
ETA: just because I don't care about the dead guy, doesn't mean that I side with the cops. If they broke the law, then they should face the consequences.
ETA: just because I don't care about the dead guy, doesn't mean that I side with the cops. If they broke the law, then they should face the consequences.
This post was edited on 5/30/20 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:54 am to tiger91
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Oxford mayor let the mask mandate expire yet??
Hell no... she’s been super quiet lately actually.. and they don’t even have a scheduled alderman meeting to potentially vote it down to expire... so stupid ....
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:54 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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This post was edited on 5/30/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:54 am to OchoDedos
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Sorry to burst your anti-cop crusade, but if it's in that manual the dude is walking, and those other officers are getting their jobs back.
If he does walk god help us all
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:54 am to TBoy
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I’m sure the policy doesn’t suggest using a knee restraint for two minutes after the subject has become non-responsive.
It says don’t do that if the suspect just did a bunch of crack.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 8:59 am to TrueTiger
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like I said, if you resist arrest and wind up dead, I really don't have any sympathy.
So when CPS (and a cop) shows up because some busybody neighbor saw your child in WalMart without a mask on, you're just going to let them take your kids for who knows how long and place them in who knows what kind of shithole?
But at least you'll have the moral highground, I guess?
Posted on 5/30/20 at 9:00 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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I know I would like to see the actual hard copy policy instead of taking this article at its word.
True dat. Context is always required - regardless of the phrases used.
Media is only interested in words in a phrase that can be “intrerpreted” to suit their pre conceived narrative. ”
Posted on 5/30/20 at 9:03 am to OchoDedos
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but if it's in that manual the dude is walking, and those other officers are getting their jobs back.
Not necessarily. It could be in the manual but still has to be utilized appropriately. From what I've seen it's supposed to be used to gain control and restraint of the arrestee. But once that is achieved the restraint method is to be discontinued. Probably for reasons such as this.
Not anti-cop. Or rather, anti-bad cop, pro-good cop.
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