re: LED light went out after 1 year

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I can’t find one LED that produces light similar to the incandescent bulbs I prefer.

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If an EXACT color temperature is important to you, try some of the programmable Phillips Hue lights. You can set any given light at EXACTLY the color temperature that you prefer, including different color temperature at different times.

For example, for most programs I use a warm color temperature in the bedrooms and family room, and a cooler one in the bathrooms kitchen and utility room. But the default program for watching TV in the family room (adjacent to the kitchen) also uses fewer lights in the kitchen sets them to a warmer color temperature.

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Heavy duty bulbs with teflon coating to contain shattered glass. Google.

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Wrong bulbs dummy.

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Yeah it's imaginary...

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Those things are junk and your little MSPaint graph is meaningless with axis labels and scales and you are delusional if you think you are getting microampere resolution too... People like you will buy anything without actually know what you are getting. Kind of like how you buy light bulbs.

Why not display a conservative position every now and then?

IMO, the contrarians are worse than the prog trolls.

We have 12 recessed can lights in our kitchen. As one would go out, I'd pick up an LED bulb at the store. At one time, I think we had a light from pretty much every area of your graph at the same time. Drove my wife crazy until I got all the warm white LED bulbs.

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Manufacturing LEDs is an inexact process, and you end up with a bunch of LEDs grouped together that are close, not exact, in color temperature. Unfortunately the human eye is extremely sensitive to color variation, which is why I went to Hue lights just to avoid the hassle. It certainly wasn't to save money.

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A perfect match is a nice Hue feature, but my favorite feature s the ability to have the same bulb produce different color temperature and power outputs as part of different programs (scenes).

For example, I have four recessed lights directly over the cooktop. I use a bright, cool color temp from all four while cooking, but a dim, warm color temp from only one as part of the Nightlight program/scene,

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Correct. Manufacturing LEDs is an inexact process, and you end up with a bunch of LEDs grouped together that are close, not exact, in color temperature. Unfortunately the human eye is extremely sensitive to color variation, which is why I went to Hue lights just to avoid the hassle. It certainly wasn't to save money.

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even so, you have to be sure to line up the same gen hue bulbs in fixtures that require multiple or they won't match. definitely when you change colors you can see the ones that are gen1 or gen2 aren't the same as gen3. gen1 was definitely a much dimmer bulb and gen2 is extremely weak when it comes to greens compared to gen3.

its all a big pita and given the nature of LED technology, will likely continue to be this way for years.

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even so, you have to be sure to line up the same gen hue bulbs in fixtures that require multiple or they won't match.

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Yeah, I got all gen 2s with a few spares. My main living area has 4 3-bulb fixtures and I don't to swap that crap out on a regular basis.

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I got them because it kept me from painting a wall because she didn't like how any bulb in the universe made the paint color look. Now she's happy.

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The difference is that the power company has to produce extra power for what isn't being used efficiently. Why the frick do utilities try to help large customers get better power factor if it didn't matter? And those are the customers that are actually billed for it.

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The extra power they have to produce is barely noticeable. It's negligible as far as fuel consumed to produce the wasted power. The reason large customers are billed extra based on PF is because of the distribution equipment required to carry the current. They either need extra generation capacity, or they need to install capacitors, I believe. That equipment must be paid for.

You started on this with the claim that a 9W LED bulb actually draws 12W, which is absolutely false. So then you moved on to PF as if to claim the power company has to generate and waste the extra 3W you claim, which is also false. Even an absolutely terrible PF of 0.2 would only result in less than 10% of extra capacity required, but LED bulbs are typically much better than that.

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I'm not talking about the price

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I have noticed you keep ignoring this critical topic.

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I'm talking about environmental impact. Simply put, LED's have a lot more mass and don't breakdown like standard bulbs do. Simple but beyond your under-developed brain.

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Well again, bulb-for-bulb yes, LEDs have more mass. And something else that is simple is when you toss 5 or more incandescents during the lifetime of 1 LED, the mass of material per hour of lighting shifts way back in favor of LEDs. You keep harping on these durable bulbs you like to buy, just to get your preferred bulb type back in the same league as LEDs in one respect, but you neglect to consider that they cost more because they require more material and energy to create than standard incandescents. You also ignore the energy required to power them.

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It's design flaws in who made them you clown. You are already fricked in the head though.

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I'm fricked in the head? I already told you that I have more than 80 LEDs around my house of various type and quality, and I have only replaced 2 of them in more than a year's time. I seriously have no idea what kind of idiot is required to use LED bulbs in a way that they die all the time.

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Obviously not since you didn't even try to address that issue.

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I didn't address it because you are grasping at so many straws without even attempting to back up the claims that it's impossible to keep up. That's a common strategy for people in your position.

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Laughable, you just go ahead and post a video of you simply popping off the plastic globe on an LED. Show the group how easy this is then weigh that part against the rest of it and show us all what inconsequential means.

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I don't currently have a stock of shitty burnt out LEDs like you apparently do, so I'm not about to waste one. You can, however, watch any of the numerous LED bulb teardowns on YouTube.

But we don't need to tear one down to see how inconsequential they are. One bulb has less plastic than a milk jug, and I throw out one of those per week, or about 50 per year. Over the life of my current batch of LED bulbs, I expect to throw out on average 10 per year or fewer. My family uses way more plastic worth of milk jugs than we do in LED bulbs.

Personally I don't use plastic water bottles, but my wife probably uses about 1 per day. She probably tosses 30X more plastic in water bottles than we will use in LED bulbs.

So I've only gone through milk and water and already the amount of plastic used per year for our LED bulbs is dwarfed. It's inconsequential.

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Crawfish kid, crawfish for all you are worth.

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I'm not crawfishing at all. If you can't tell that it was a joke when I said make up your mind whether LEDs last 1 year or 500, then you've got way worse problems than I can help you with.

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yeah i've had probably a dozen a19s die in the 5 years i've been in my new house or more. some fixtures (even open fixtures) just seem to not like LEDs. the girl's bathroom in my house has a 3 fixture light (open) and no matter what, position #2 bulb burns out every 6 months like clockwork.

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One of my ceiling fans is like this. One of the four receivers will kill any bulb you put in it. It uses the smaller-base bulbs, so I am sill using incandescent in it.