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re: LED light went out after 1 year

Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:46 am to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16640 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:46 am to
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Yeah you mean the kind that cost as much as LED bulbs?


About $1.75/ea and what in your pea brain are you getting Teflon coating from?


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160F is nothing


It is something to the driver circuit and that is probably low because the thermocouple I was holding was getting a bit uncomfortable to hold onto. If that bulb was in an enclosed fixture it would be much warmer.

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A current transformer.


And? A clamp meter is not even close to having the sensitivity required so keep Googling your imaginary test setup.


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The instantaneous load matched the wattage listed on the devices tested, and the total consumption matched the power company's meter on the side of my house. I can't tell you exactly how it worked, but why don't you tell me where the frickup is?


You are full of shite.... You have nothing that sensitive plugged into your mains and the power meter is sure as hell not telling you more than the nearest kWh you are going to be billed for. LED bulbs tell you in mA what current they are supposed to draw, 70 mA is not even a rounding error for for whatever imaginary device you have in you circuit breaker panel...
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 2:47 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28728 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:58 am to
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That's not how power factor works you clown... Not even in the same continent of what my point was.
I know how power factor works. Now you tell me how PF relates to energy wasted at the plant. In other words, what is the difference in fuel used to run a 1kW load at 1.0PF vs a 1kW load at 0.5PF?
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No I don't, I can look at the engineering and construction of these bulbs and tell which is taking more to build. You'd have to be blind as well as stupid not to see that
It's obvious which takes more to build. The question is by how much, and the answer is the price.
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Except when they don't because can burn out in as little as a few weeks simply by being orientated the wrong way or put in a well sealed fixture. Heat kills the driver circuits.
Well frick me sideways. Are you admitting to user error?
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Your brain can't comprehend the scales involved here.
It can.
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Talking millions of bulbs and rare earth metals are often toxic, ever hear about e-waste problems? Of course not, you are a fricking retard

I know a bit about e-waste.
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Potential to recycle? Who is doing that and where?
Talking about the plastic, my man. If you're so concerned about it, all you have to do is pop off most of the plastic and throw it in the bin. But the amount of plastic is so inconsequential considering how long they last that it is clearly not worth it.
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Maybe they really aren't that recyclable, just another throw away commodity pimped by imbeciles too caught up in smellig their own farts.
Yeah, they are throw away commodities. Compared to the tons of shite we throw away on a daily basis, my LED bulbs aren't a drop in the bucket. And over the course of its life it saved us from having to burn more irreplaceable shite to power it than we otherwise would have. Good trade.
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500 years is about how long Styrofoam is estimated to last in a landfill because it doesn't degrade easily. Just like plastic LED bulbs. It's like you are intentionally ignorant. Rich indeed...
It was a joke, my man. Kinda like your whole argument.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132570 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:08 am to
Still going strong

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28728 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:16 am to
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About $1.75/ea
Yep right there with typical LED bulbs these days.
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what in your pea brain are you getting Teflon coating from?
Heavy duty bulbs with teflon coating to contain shattered glass. Google.
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And? A clamp meter is not even close to having the sensitivity required so keep Googling your imaginary test setup.
It absolutely does. It produced very stable current readings with hardly any fluctuation, and it was very apparent to see when two 10W LED bulbs were turned off and on.


That dip was when I switched the lights off then back on.
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You are full of shite.... You have nothing that sensitive plugged into your mains and the power meter is sure as hell not telling you more than the nearest kWh you are going to be billed for. LED bulbs tell you in mA what current they are supposed to draw, 70 mA is not even a rounding error for for whatever imaginary device you have in you circuit breaker panel...

Yeah it's imaginary...

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90904 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 6:30 am to
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have had LEDs for over 5 years and they are still working and survived the move from tx to nm.



You took your lightbulbs with you to your new house?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53783 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 6:52 am to
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I love our beautiful orange president for giving us the freedom to choose our lightbulbs again


as a builder, one who resisted the change, I've come to really love the LEDs...

for a ton of reasons, but one being they have become affordable...

every now and then you get a bad one, but they will burn for many years, no heat, low energy, are dimmable... and look good. it's win win...

the color issue has been resolved...you get whatever range you want.

if people want to buy the old bulbs go for it...but it doesn't make a lot of sense
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7643 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 6:52 am to
Holy shite you people will find any excuse necessary to suck the dick of your GE
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21929 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:46 am to
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They are now in closets and other places that do not see much use ... probably less than an hour per week.


So why imply that they offer some great longevity? CFLs were a failure by damn near any standard.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67216 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:49 am to
I hate LED’s. Their harsh light looks terrible and they’re way more expensive. Damnit, Trump, give me my light bulbs back!!!
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:00 am to
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But you probably know 0 about electricity or anything being discussed here. Which is par for the course of literally every topic on the forum where you know nothing and contribute nothing.
I am SO glad that others are starting to notice this.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:02 am to
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Korkstand
I said it last week, and I will say it again.You are one of the brighter posters on TD, and I wish you would spend more on PT.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21929 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:03 am to
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the color issue has been resolved...you get whatever range you want.



That's not entirely true. If you have a room or fixtures with multiple bulbs you'd better buy them all at the same time, because if one burns out there's no guarantee the next 5000k bulb is going to match them. It'll be close, yes, but depending on the translucency of the fixture it's definitely noticeable.

I have almost all LEDs and went to Philips Hue in the main room, but people pretending they almost never go bad or have no downsides are overselling them. You can buy plenty of $1.50 LEDs if you're not picky about color and don't mind replacing them when a board goes bad, because at that price you're not going to get 99.9% reliability.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:05 am to
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I hate LED’s. Their harsh light looks terrible
Your LEDs must have been purchased a long time ago and lasted quite a few years because the color temperature issue was resolved a LONG time ago.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
2930 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:10 am to
I find that they tend to be extremely hit and miss. Some bulbs I've had going on 7-8 years others I've replaced within a year.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57473 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:11 am to
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CFL's are awesome
CFLs suck.....When i turn on the light i want it at 100%. My living room isnt a stadium where the light needs to warm up.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67216 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:13 am to
I can’t find one LED that produces light similar to the incandescent bulbs I prefer.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21929 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:16 am to
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Your LEDs must have been purchased a long time ago and lasted quite a few years because the color temperature issue was resolved a LONG time ago.


You don't understand LEDs.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:16 am to
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CFL's are awesome
CFLs suck.....When i turn on the light i want it at 100%. My living room isnt a stadium where the light needs to warm up.
I got on board with a few CFL lights early on, more as an experiment than anything. I did not particularly like them for several reasons, primarily the blue color temperature and secondarily the slow-on problem.

I LOVE modern LED bulbs, though I am slowly phasing-out many of them in favor of programmable smart bulbs.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74340 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:19 am to
I'm also SO glad that roadgator captured just how insane you are

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I was a 2-sport letterman multiple years and two years all District and all Region. I considered myself one of the “jocks.”. I was also class valedictorian and earned a full ride to TAMU,


Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16640 posts
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:19 am to
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Now you tell me how PF relates to energy wasted at the plant. In other words, what is the difference in fuel used to run a 1kW load at 1.0PF vs a 1kW load at 0.5PF?


The difference is that the power company has to produce extra power for what isn't being used efficiently. Why the frick do utilities try to help large customers get better power factor if it didn't matter? And those are the customers that are actually billed for it.

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The question is by how much, and the answer is the price.


I'm not talking about the price, I'm talking about environmental impact. Simply put, LED's have a lot more mass and don't breakdown like standard bulbs do. Simple but beyond your under-developed brain.


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Well frick me sideways. Are you admitting to user error?


It's design flaws in who made them you clown. You are already fricked in the head though.


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I know a bit about e-waste.


Obviously not since you didn't even try to address that issue.


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Talking about the plastic, my man. If you're so concerned about it, all you have to do is pop off most of the plastic and throw it in the bin. But the amount of plastic is so inconsequential considering how long they last that it is clearly not worth it.


Laughable, you just go ahead and post a video of you simply popping off the plastic globe on an LED. Show the group how easy this is then weigh that part against the rest of it and show us all what inconsequential means.


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It was a joke, my man. Kinda like your whole argument.


Crawfish kid, crawfish for all you are worth.
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